The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Maxim_(talk) 14:34, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kreegan[edit]

This article asserts no notability through reliable sources, and as such is just an in-universe plot repetition without any referencing or notability. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 19:23, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with the Might and Magic article.--TBC !?! 20:18, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. The Kreegan were the major plot antagonists for two M&M games (6 & 7) and were involved in several others. The article is obviously in pretty bad shape right now as it's mostly in-universe and has no references, but my preference would be to improve it rather than delete. BreathingMeat (talk) 21:00, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
But the question is whether any references that would improve the article exist, and also are there enough, since each article needs multiple reliable sources. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 21:31, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Judge. In-universe, fancrufty, & no assertion of real-world notability. Can be covered in enough detail at MM. Eusebeus (talk) 21:58, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional characters-related deletion discussions. —Pixelface (talk) 04:32, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep appropriate break-out articles on characters are acceptable also, though they should probably be merged. Propose a merge, not a deletion.DGG (talk) 05:57, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and improve. Wikipedia is not paper. --Pixelface (talk) 18:43, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If no references can be established, there is no improvement possible, only deletion. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 18:48, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Might and Magic. These critters are evidently one of the prime villains in this game and thus notable enough within the topic. While AfDs are not meant to be the standard or necessary means of proposing mergers, merge can be a valid outcome of an AfD when other editors agree with the nominator that stand-alone notability is lacking, but disagree that discarding the information is the necessary response. It's common enough that we've got templates for it: ((Merge per afd)), ((Afd-mergeto)) and ((Afd-mergefrom)). If this AfD closes accordingly, I'll happily lend a hand with the merge if needed. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:51, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In anticipation of a Merge outcome, I have preserved the article in its current state at User:BreathingMeat/Kreegan. When the merge is complete, or if the outcome of this is Delete, I will delete the userspace mirror. BreathingMeat (talk) 04:46, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - per nom and Eusebeus. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:17, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.