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The result was delete. Sandstein 19:46, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The article of this school relies significantly on the school's own website. According to the article, the school has classes until 8th grade, and I'm not familiar with the American education system but I guess that that's until the age of ~12? AFAIK there is a lot of drama going on about whether high schools are notable on their own or if they need a GNG pass, but this educational institution seems to be one level less, so only a general notability guideline pass means that it's notable.

Currently the article does not show a such pass, with the heavy reliance on primary sources. The other one is a database source. A before search results in even more primary sources and coverage mostly related to the school district of the same name. Might be useful as a redirect to Las Cruces Public Schools though? ~Styyx^{Talk? ^-^} 16:12, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. ~Styyx^{Talk? ^-^} 16:12, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. ~Styyx^{Talk? ^-^} 16:12, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Mexico-related deletion discussions. ~Styyx^{Talk? ^-^} 16:16, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Per WP:NSCHOOL, a for-profit school must meet WP:ORG. I was only able to find two independent reliable sources with significant coverage[1][2], however both of those are small local media outlets, both are from July 2020, and both are about the impact of COVID restrictions on the school's operations. Although each article provides background information on the school, there is no ongoing coverage or any coverage outside of the local area. Schazjmd (talk) 16:31, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Here is the creator of this page, just saying that this IS NOT A MEXICAN SCHOOL, IT IS A NEW MEXICAN SCHOOL LOCATED IN THE UNITED STATES. Just clarifying after a user said this was a Mexican school at the top of this page. WikiEditorPublicGood999 (talk) 17:15, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, that's a fuck up on my part. Though it doesn't change much since I'm not really familiar with the education system in the US either. ~Styyx^{Talk? ^-^} 17:31, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP as redirect to Las Cruces Public Schools. WikiEditorPublicGood999 (talk) 17:21, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: I conducted a search about this subject earlier today after I interacted with the creator. I found much the same as Schazjmd: some local coverage that provides run-of-the-mill information and/or draws heavily on the testimony of people involved at the school. The subject is not by itself notable under WP:NORG, but could be redirected to Las Cruces, New Mexico#Private schools. Modussiccandi (talk) 20:56, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete or redirect per Schazjmd and Modussiccandi as there is only local, trivial coverage about the school. --Adamant1 (talk) 07:47, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete the sourcing here is not at the level we need for an institution or organization, which is the level articles on schools need to meet.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:50, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. I'm confused by the sequence of this nomination. Here's why, from Draft:Las Cruces Academy: Revision history: 21:07, March 2, 2022‎ Stwalkerster moved page Las Cruces Academy to Draft:Las Cruces Academy without leaving a redirect: Not ready for mainspace, incubate in draftspace; unsourced except to school's own website (via script). So prior to this AfD nomination, this article was draftified? Aside from that anomaly, we never/hardly-ever keep articles about primary/middle schools, anyway-- at best, they may get a listing on the relevant district page. Nevertheless, shouldn't this article have been deleted in the draftification process? Looks to me like we're wasting brain cells here, and I have none to spare. Good grief. Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 17:33, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I see this happen daily. Editors move an incomplete article from main space to Draft space and the page creator cuts & pastes the content back into a main space article. So, we have two versions of the article, one in main space and one in Draft space, two page histories. It happens all too frequently and the editors who "draftify" articles that are not ready for main space are simply trying to prevent deletion discussions exactly like this one by allowing the page creator to work on improving the article in Draft space. It's unfortunate that some page creators misunderstand the move to Draft space as a comment on the content and not a way to preserve their work rather than having the page deleted through speedy deletion or AFD. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:08, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Liz, thanks for this insight. Any chance this block might be reinstated with a severe admonishment:

  20:11, March 3, 2022 Yamla blocked WikiEditorPublicGood999 with an expiration time of 31 hours (account creation blocked) (Vandalism)

  --and both this article and the draft !speedy deleted? Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 05:02, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete The information provided by the sources is not enough for giving a clear idea about some aspects of the school, better citations and sources are required. Foodie Soul (talk) 09:15, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete I originally A7'd this, like an idiot. (A7 isn't allowed on schools.) This article makes no credible claim of significance, which is explicitly a lower bar then notability, notability being what is actually required for an article/ ("There are around 40 children attending the school as of 2020" is kind of a credible claim of insignificance, is it not?) EDIT: On redirect - Las Cruces Academy is not part of Las Cruces Public Schools, and should not be a redirect because someone searching for Las Cruces Academy would not expect an article on a competing school district. casualdejekyll 21:15, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  It turns out the Las Cruces, New Mexico article already has a listing (with 2 secondary sources out of 3 sources!) under the private schools section. No need to list anywhere else-- just leave a redirect to that section. Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 23:49, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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