The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Several call of merge, but point made that there is little mergable information. NativeForeigner ^Talk/_Contribs 00:26, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Leeds Celtics (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log • AfD statistics)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Not notable. British University sports teams aren't generally notable. In most cases they have next to zero following even within their own institution. This team does not appear to be one of the very small number of exceptions. A search on Google returns only sites directly to the team and its rivals. Article is unreferenced and given the lack of independent sources, there is little prospect that it could be referenced. Equally, the fact that in the almost 5 years since its creation the article has had nothing more than a handful of non-trivial edits (There are about 2 which add "real" content, none of which have been in the last 3 years), indicates it is unlikely it ever will Pit-yacker (talk) 17:51, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. —Pit-yacker (talk) 17:58, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. It's a rare British University sports team that is notable even in majority sports - let alone teams that play minority sports such as American Football. This team does not seem to be one of those few exceptions to this rule. Pfainuk talk 18:00, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. per nom. per Pfainuk. per there are no notable third party citations to bolster notability. --Quartermaster (talk) 18:14, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - In most cases, University sports teams aren't known in their own campus, never mind off it. I am unable to find anything that this team - in what is a minority sport in the United Kingdom - is any different. DitzyNizzy (aka Jess)|(talk to me)|(What I've done) 19:21, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. —• Gene93k (talk) 19:37, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge into University of Leeds#Leeds University Sport. A summary could be added to the university article. Cjc13 (talk) 10:46, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see much that's merge-able. Right now this team, along with most other sports teams in the same situation, doesn't get a mention at all, so anything more than a link to the words "American football" as an example of a sport played at Leeds would seem to be undue coverage. Pfainuk talk 16:32, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Problem with a merge is that it merely shifts the problem of the inability to verify the topic to the University of Leeds article. Pit-yacker (talk) 17:40, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking about the merger of the info in the first paragraph and leaving a redirect. There are websites BUAFL and Leeds Celtic which support the info. Cjc13 (talk) 20:49, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

According to that article, Leeds University has either thirty-six or sixty different sports clubs. Whichever, most of those sports aren't even mentioned in the Leeds University article. Certainly, none of them gets a paragraph to itself. I see little reason to assume that American football is a special case. So, putting anything more than the words "American football" in that article would seem to give undue weight to the American football team.

Incidentally, the 36-60 discrepancy seems to come about because Leeds University Students Union have a bizarrely restrictive definition of a "sports club" - excluding, for example, martial arts and most watersports clubs. Pfainuk talk 21:20, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge to University of Leeds#Athletics as non-notable and badly in need of merging, if possible. T3h 1337 b0y 22:06, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as non notable, as are 99.9% of UK university sports teams. Nuttah (talk) 20:16, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - as per Nuttah Codf1977 (talk) 13:45, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.