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The result was delete. ✗plicit 14:47, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lin Zhuo Yan[edit]

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nearly all of the article claims in the body are unsourced and I cannot locate English language sources on the subject, a BLP. therefore fails WP:N. LegalSmeagolian (talk) 14:39, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople and China. LegalSmeagolian (talk) 14:39, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not able to assess the reliability of the sources in the Chinese language search results, apart from the ones I know to be UGC, so I won't make a judgement on notability here. I will say though that notability does not require English language sources, which seems to be part of the nominator's argument. Folly Mox (talk) 16:18, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The only reliable English-language sources I can find are passing mentions, interviewing Lin as chairman of Outlets but not providing any biographical info. Searching his name in Chinese, 林卓延, gives more results; I don't read Chinese, but I viewed the first two pages of results through Google Translate and none of them appeared to meet our standards of independence from the subject. It would be helpful to have a Chinese speaker weigh in, and I'm willing to change my !vote if decent sources can be found. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 20:27, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Hsin Chong (with the history preserved under the redirect), where he is already mentioned as having taken over control of the company, per Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion. I conducted searches for sources for Lin Zhuo Yan (Chinese: 林卓延) and did not find significant coverage about the subject. The sources included passing mentions like this article from People Daily, this article from Hong Kong Economic Journal, and this article from HK01. I support a redirect per Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion and to allow the redirect to be undone if significant coverage is found in the future. Cunard (talk) 07:07, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: BLP Fails GNG and BIO. Sources in the article do not show N. BEFORE searching "林卓延" and "Lin Zhuo Yan" didn't show anything that is IS RS with SIGCOV showing N, name is often mentioned in articles about Outlet Assets but nothing that meets IS RS with SIGCOV, just mentions in ROUTINE business articles.

Source evail:

Failed V, 404, primary, no evidence of pages existence in internet archives :: 1. "Council of China's Foreign Trade— ZhuoYan Lin". CCPIT. May 8, 1996.
Failed V, 404, no evidence of articles existence in internet archives :: 2. ^ "Fashion, but at a bargain price". People’S Daily. February 21, 2011.
Failed V, 404, primary, no evidence of pages existence in internet archives :: 3. ^ "OUTLET(CHINA)LIMITED". OUTLET. May 5, 2008.
Failed V, 404, no evidence of articles existence in internet archives :: 4. ^ "How a top-tier HK builder got into trouble". EJ Insight. 2017-05-12. Retrieved 2018-03-20.
Failed V, 404, no evidence of articles existence in internet archives :: 5. ^ "Chairman of German Outlet Chamber met with ZhuoYan Lin". OUTLET(CHINA)LIMITED. June 3, 2011.
It works, but it is an interview. Appears to be the same article as #2 above :: 6. ^ "Outlet in China". China.org.cn. February 22, 2011.
Failed V, 404, primary, no evidence of pages existence in internet archives :: 7. ^ "OUTLET(CHINA)LIMITED". OUTLET. May 5, 2008.
it works, but no SIGCOV about the subject :: 8. ^ "Home advantage". China Daily European Weekly. May 25, 2012.

As stated above, a significant number of the search results are not IS, but government sources.

WP:BLP states "Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources"'; BLPs need IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth for both content and notability to avoid abuse per well known core policy (WP:V and WP:BLP) and guidelines (WP:BIO and WP:IS, WP:RS, WP:SIGCOV). This article needs to be deleted before redirect because it is a very poorly sourced BLP; no objection to redirect if deleted first. // Timothy :: talk 01:45, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Has no reliable sources. As per above many sources do not come up. Kakara69 (talk) 15:38, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete outright on account of lack of sources enabling WP:GNG. Do not redirect, do not merge: Unsourced material does not get dumped elsewhere in Wikipedia, nor recycled at our convenience. It gets deleted. (The fact that the text was created by a kamikaze account would normally add something to the stink, but the amusing absence of sourcing makes it a mere amuse-bouche.) -The Gnome (talk) 17:15, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete lacks indepth coverage fails WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 00:04, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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