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The result was delete. postdlf (talk) 16:46, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

List of NBA players who have played in the Chinese Basketball Association[edit]

List of NBA players who have played in the Chinese Basketball Association (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)

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I don't think this list meets WP:LISTN Some of these athletes who've played for or originated from the CBA are already mentioned in the opening paragraphs of Chinese Basketball Association. I'm not sure whether this should be merged and deleted to Chinese Basketball Association or fully deleted. MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 23:53, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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• delete, unless someone can come up with a source for the list, both to properly source it and to justify its existence as a standalone list article. Otherwise it does not work as a list here.--JohnBlackburne^words_deeds 21:03, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep – I think it's notable in the context of CBA history and prestige to provide a list of its players who have played in the world's top basketball league. Granted the article has a lot of problems right now – what it desperately needs is references, some sort of affirmation that the list is complete, and more information (i.e. something like the table at Irish Experiment) – but the notability and validity of the article as a whole seems adequate to me. Aspirex (talk) 00:04, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment An abbreviated list could be appropriate somewhere. A comprehensive, sourced list would be a huge headache, though. English-language information on the CBA is spotty, and even if you can read Chinese, I think it would be difficult to keep tabs on everyone, since teams are constantly dropping and replacing their imports. (If there is some CBA-related equivalent of basketball-reference.com, it may be possible, but I'm not aware of anything like that.) Zagalejo^^^ 15:03, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I did find this, which could potentially be helpful, but I don't know if it's comprehensive. Zagalejo^^^ 15:08, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete I don't think a list is the way to go. The players that have played in both will be in the cross-section of the two categories for each league (more akin to trivia then) but I think we're better off if any "history of the CBA" articles merge in the history of any notable players rather than a mere cross-section list of all players in both leagues. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 04:00, 17 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Fails WP:LISTN, with no independent, reliable sources discussing this grouping. I wouldn't be surprised if they exist in Chinese sources, but nobody has demonstrated that they do (and I do not speak it). Yes the NBA is the top-tier basketball league in the world, but let's not start a precedent to use that fact to blindly create a similar grouping for all other all leagues in which former NBA players have participated in, and presume such a grouping is universally notable.—Bagumba (talk) 14:07, 17 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per Bagumba's rationale immediately above: fails WP:LISTN. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 17:48, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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