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The result was I realized I !voted below, but after further consideration, I looked much further into this article and it absolutely a WP:BLP nightmare. None of these nicknames are sourced, and some could be considered borderline libel. As such, this article is being Speedy Deleted per WP:BLP concerns.— Preceding unsigned comment added by ^demon (talk • contribs)

List of sportspeople by nickname[edit]

I discovered this list while cleaning up useless redirects. Very poorly sourced article, almost no references at all, and wikipedia is not a reliable source. It also seems like every athelte who ever played got a nickname, so it's a endless list. Fails WP:RS WP:LISTCRUFT, WP:V, WP:NOT and possibly WP:OR. Delete Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 19:37, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Eep. Delete per nom. That will be painful-to-impossible to maintain properly...--SarekOfVulcan 19:46, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. That page is unsourced and enormous. ZOUAVMAN LE ZOUAVE 20:10, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete absolute definition of "list of loosely associated topics" Only thing these people have in common are that they have a nickname and they competed in an athletic event. Corpx 20:39, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete That's a list of loosely associated topics if I've ever seen one. —Travis ^talk 22:19, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep I didn't underatand how the list was organized at first, so I now disagree with my earlier !vote. However, the list is too long with nearly 1,500 entries, so long in fact, that it crashed Firefox with wikEd installed when I opened it for editing. Clearly, if it is to be kept, it needs to be split up. —Travis ^talk 13:48, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I'm usually hard on lists, but I have to say, I don't see the problem with this one. So it's a list of nicknames by which athletes have been known; I don't see that as loosely associated items, as in many of the more trivial "List of songs about …" articles, since in those cases the songs and the topics mentioned are truly loosely associated and the items are mutually irrelevant. I could do without the ones coined by Chris Berman, though. Deor 23:39, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note. I've amended this nom by adding the usual line of links and the "Remove this template" notice at the top. I hope I've done it correctly. Deor 23:49, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The issue with this article is that one of the most poorly sourced articles on wikipedia, most of the nicknames looks like they were nicknamed by the fans, and likely won't get any Reliable sources never with the exception of a few nicknames, many of the nicknames I checked in google are just passing trivial mentions or blogs. In a way WP:BLP applies here as well. I know AFD isn't for cleanup, but this is unsalvageable as it stands. Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 02:30, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Sorry, almost all the nicknames I'm seeing are well-known. The sourcing may be thin, but sources can be added (and if the nicknames are sourced in the persons' articles, I don't think they need be sourced here as well). I guess what I'm saying is that I don't consider that the idea of this list violates policies or guidelines, so any problems can be handled via discussion and cleanup. ("One of the most poorly sourced articles on wikipedia" is a hyperbole that's forgivable in a discussion, but I find it hard to believe that you really consider it so. I've seen many, many more poorly sourced ones.) Deor 03:17, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I really dont think WP should be a nickname database. Nicknames should be mentioned in individual articles, with appropriate sourcing, but this is just a trivial list. Corpx 15:50, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Usefulness is a strong argument when it comes to lists, since that is, after all, their purpose. The usefulness of this one is absolutely obvious. It makes it easier to navigate articles and helps readers who remember that some sports figure's name was "The Animal" but just can't remember the guy's name. Yes, you could use a search engine to find something, but, like everything else is supposed to be in Wikipedia, this is a tool that makes the search for information faster. And if you had two or three nicknames to look up, this would be manna from heaven. The subject itself, nicknames of sports figures, is encyclopedic, it seems to me. If we're going to have articles on sports figures, organized at an essential level by name, then a list of alternate names is valuable.Noroton 19:34, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

keep great subject — Preceding unsigned comment added by Delighted eyes (talk • contribs) 03:20, 29 July 2007
Keep Athletes tend to be known by nicknames more than most other prominent people, simply because sports reporters create them. This list takes the approach of running from Ace to Zeko; it's a plus that it's not limited to Americans. Mandsford 23:33, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Very strong delete. Jaranda has it right, it's failing every single one of those policies and guidelines, and thus has no place in Wikipedia. Most of the keeps seem to be WP:ILIKEIT's, as they do not answer the policy concerns raised by the nom. ^demon^{[omg plz]} 23:22, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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