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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) Atlantic306 (talk) 22:10, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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A non-notable local event, sources only from local news outlets and trivial and WP:ROUTINE announcements, a search reveals only passing mentions outside of local sources. Fails WP:EVENT, or if seen as an organization, definitely fails WP:ORG, and WP:GNG. Hzh (talk) 10:11, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep assessed and approved via AfC, this annual event is similar to the many sister events listed here Fringe_theatre#List_of_fringe_festivals and in fact met a redlink. Spot checking did not find any pattern of deletions of similar festivals based in other cities. Since we have many similar articles on similar events there is no good reason to delete this page which is part of a collection of pages on the topic of Fringe theatre. Legacypac (talk) 01:54, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Fringe_theatre#List_of_fringe_festivals lists everything from the very famous to the inconsequential, which isn't a case for keeping this article. Just because Edinburgh Fringe Festival is notable does not make another one in some random place notable, e.g. Tucson Fringe Festival. The criteria of WP:N needs to be satisfied, and WP:OTHERSTUFF is not an argument. Hzh (talk) 10:47, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 12:55, 7 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Hawaii-related deletion discussions. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 12:55, 7 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No one has found Tucson Fringe Festival not notable. Obviously the original one in Edinburgh is notable but I would expect every other similar event is going to get mainly "local coverage". Therefore in the absence of fringe festival policy we need to look at how similar pages have been found to be notable or not. Evidently, because they continue to stand, similar pages are notable which means this topic is also likely notable. It has run for a few years, not just a one time thing. Legacypac (talk) 00:12, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Still essentially an WP:OTHERSTUFF argument. Until it has been established all such local festivals are considered notable, it isn't really an argument. Frankly I can't see how it can become established as a rule - there are all kinds of festivals all over the world, just because, let's say, Cannes Film Festival is notable, it doesn't mean that another film festival established in a a little town by someone's grandmother would be notable as well. Hzh (talk) 13:34, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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