- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 04:16, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maxim Novoselov[edit]
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Maxim Novoselov has never been ranked in the top ten, has never beaten a notable fighter (or one with a winning record for that matter), and hasn't fought for any notable promotions/events. Checking his Russian Wikipedia his biggest claims to fame are almost fighting Viacheslav Datsik, getting jailed twice, and setting up a small club in prison. The article is currently orphaned as well. User:ZenZekey (talk) 07:57, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I think the article relies pretty much solely on this source, https://www.sports.ru/tribuna/blogs/autoblog/1020556.html, which covers the subject extensively and is solely about the subject but does not seem to be a reliable source (it's essentially a blog post). Everything else consists of passing mentions or profiles on sports pages which every martial artist has regardless of notability. I did find this source https://fighttime.ru/news/item/30275-boets-maksim-novoselov-osuzhden-na-pyat-let.html?rand=19907 which appears to have several similar articles around the internet of him being arrested again. It also sounds like he won the European Sambo Championships in 2007 according to this: https://mma.bg/novini/mma-novini/maksim-novoselov-se-vrashta-v-zatvora-zaradi-iznasilvane Spiralwidget (talk) 16:07, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment It's hard to evaluate the quality and reliability of these sources. I'll admit to being skeptical about them, but I'm open to being convinced (which is why I didn't vote yet). According to FIAS, the world sambo organization, he's never competed at a world championship and the European sambo association's webpage only has results back to 2010 so I can't confirm his European title. Fightmatrix.com shows his highest MMA ranking was 110th, but he never fought another ranked fighter. He certainly appears to be a scary guy you wouldn't want to cross, but I'm not seeing anything that meets any WP SNG criteria. The question is whether or not he meets WP:GNG. Papaursa (talk) 11:41, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I did manage to dig up evidence of him winning a European championship in 2007.
- https://web.archive.org/web/20181017064049/http://www.sambo.com/results-bulgaria-4-07.html
- I'm still not convinced this warrants a Wikipedia page. He certainly doesn't meet WP:MMANOT and actually meets one of the criteria supporting deletion (no fights at top tier organizations). Aside from his Sambo/MMA career all he really has going for him is going to prison a couple times. ZenZekey (talk) 00:43, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 06:34, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: It does not appear that ((subst:afd2)) was ever applied here; I have fixed this. No opinion or further comment. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 10:48, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete I looked closer at the article's sources as well as doing my own search. What I found where some fight results, MMA databases, interviews with content that can't be verified--and evidence of criminal activities. None of this convinces me that WP:GNG is met or that he is WP notable. Papaursa (talk) 02:57, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.