The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. Information, especially in a BLP, has to be verifiable. So, I have to close this as Delete. If sources can be found, I'd be happy to restore this to Draft space to be improved or you can make a request at WP:REFUND. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:27, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Medwyn Goodall (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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This appears to be a vanity page for a musician. While his body of work is extensive, I cannot find any substantial online coverage of him to fulfill WP:BASIC or WP:MUSICBIO. The second reference states that he has topped the UK music charts twice, but this appears to be a fanzine of questionable reliability and I can't find any mention of him at the official chart website. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 08:32, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and England. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 10:46, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I've searched the official charts database, and I agree with the nominator, I am unable to find evidence of charting (though potentially it could be so far back in time to not be available online), including under his alternate name. However - there is a WP:RSMUSIC Allmusic staff bio available, which is both non-trivial coverage and confirms gold-certification. Potentially with more verification and coverage this may be a keep. ResonantDis_tortion 13:28, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:46, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Found this Billboard mention that one of his records sold 50,000 copies here, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 21:42, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

HELLO ALL - I am the ARTIST - COMPOSER/recording artist. This page looks as though it was originally created by fans. However I do ask it is NOT deleted WHY >> I am an international award winning artist (instrumental music) 6 gold disc, 1 platinumn and a life achievement award, at least 4 million fans international. I also own a record label managing other artists. A 33yr career. My own radio show also. UK based. Numerous hits. Career is still ongoing. Instrumental music doesnt tend to be found in charts or have the hype of pop music so whilst I am not as trackable you will find me all over itunes, spotify, Amazon, Facebook, youtube, google, as one of the most famous artists of my genre Medwyngoodall (talk) 19:40, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These are the notability guidelines Wikipedia follows for keeping articles on musicians: WP:MUSICBIO. We need reliable sources (WP:RS) to show the article subject meets the criteria. At present it's unlikely there are enough sources, so if you can provide such references that would significantly help. (Note I have been unable to verify the Gold certifications via the British Phonographic Industry website, so help on that would also be useful). ResonantDis_tortion 07:04, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. We need more participation here.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:30, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Leaning towards Delete per nom. Not much of a coverage Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 11:32, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. More participation needed.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 00:19, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. BLP tagged for five years as unsourced. The subject's opinion might influence me if they presented a single source which backed their assertion. BusterD (talk) 02:22, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: passes WP:MUSICBIO by having gold records (according to him, but I assume he's not lying and that sources exist). There is a self-published (but by a company rather than a fan) bio here. I am concerned about the lack of good identifiable sources but if he passes the policy, then it should be kept, right? Mrfoogles (talk) 03:12, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above is mere opinion. Lacking any RS directly detailing, ]this BLP article passes no criteria for inclusion (ANYBIO, GNG, MUSICBIO). The subject may have 100 gold records, but since we have 0 sources supporting such an assertion, Wikipedia can't host an article just because the subject requests the article not be deleted. BusterD (talk) 12:54, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This AllMusic bio confirms several gold certifications here and the Billboard reference confirms one here but I can't find anything else, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 20:41, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

According to WP:ALLMUSIC on its reliability as a source: Some editors question the accuracy of these websites for biographical details and recommend more reliable sources when available. In this case it certainly reads as promotional. We need to know which body certified the records as gold/platinum. Orange sticker (talk) 08:16, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I agree with this - the Allmusic bio appears to be all we have, and it is not enough on its own. After 3 relists nothing further has been identified so I recommend deletion as not meeting WP:MUSICBIO. I would be happy to change my !vote if more coverage is found, or indeed if the certifications can be verified to the awarding bodies. ResonantDis_tortion 11:25, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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