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The result was no consensus defaulting to keep and w/o prejudice to a future renomination. Discussion regarding the article title and moves can continue on the article talk page. Ad Orientem (talk) 00:08, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:TOOSOON. Article is also poorly sourced aka fan websites or facebook. Also recommend this article be salted till 2021. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 14:07, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep the same way WP keeps articles of future sporting events. Balle010 (talk) 15:44, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete Universally, (event) 2021 articles need to have a scheduled date at this point for articles to go forward. Seventeen months is a definite WP:CRYSTAL, and going by this being the former article for Miss World 2020 and being unable to find anything about that event...I don't know what to make about this article, except that we need clear, reliable and neutral sources, and I don't think we'll be able to meet that threshold. Nate • (chatter) 23:01, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Additional comment A ping to @Chickpea 112:>User_talk:Chickpea 112; why exactly did you move this article to 2021 with zero indication the event would be delayed? Nate • (chatter) 02:39, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete and revert move to Miss World 2020 – there is no official announcement yet and wait for the Miss World president Julia Morley to further announce the dates would be made in public. That 2021 year is too early on the consistency with crystal ball. ApprenticeFan work 06:29, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Revert move back to Miss World 2020 with this article being redirected to the Miss World article. As ApprenticeFan said, this no official announcement made by the Miss World Organization nor it's president/chairperson Julia Morley. If there was an announcement then this would've been moved to 2021 with this being the next edition. Also the nominator uses WP:TOOSOON as one of his reasons for nominating this article; however there is no mention of Upcoming Events on the Too Soon Wikipedia guideline page, thus the Too Soon reasoning is not valid. As for the sources, some are facebook and fan site sources but others are sources from news outlets so the reasoning of "poorly sourced" is only partially valid due to some sources being reliable. - IZ041 (talk) 02:49, 26 July 2020
• Delete and Revert move to Miss World 2020 – there is no official announcement yet and any legitimate references supporting that Miss World 2020 was postponed to 2021. Block this wikipedia user >>> User_talk:Chickpea 112 who's spreading HOAX by changing the information on Miss World edition, contestants and disruptive edits (also vandalism) on the mentioned Miss World pages without supporting any references. I Nyoman Gede Anila (talk) 07:15, 31 July 2020
• Delete and revert move per above. Comment - Previous poster I Nyoman Gede Anila you can take your concerns about an editor to WP:AIV or WP:ANI if necessary JW 1961 Talk 13:38, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Move - this page back to Miss World 2020 and revert the page into Miss World for now. That way we keep this information ahead of a certain date for Miss World 2021.BabbaQ (talk) 22:40, 1 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would also suggest that Miss International 2021 be moved/reverted into Miss International as there are no confirmation at this point that the pageant will even take place.BabbaQ (talk) 11:11, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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