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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 07:21, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Muhammad Hassan Khan[edit]

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Contested PROD. Subject is a college student who ran and lost in a 2019 election. Does not meet WP:NPOL nor is there enough independent sig coverage in RS for GNG. MB 23:18, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. MB 23:18, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. MB 23:18, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: I was in the process of making a nomination, so I'll repeat the argument I was making: The only source mentioning him more than just by name is the Yorkregion.com source, which just put all the opinions of the candidates there, effectively making it a primary source. Bottom line: No sources exist that count toward GNG. Username⁶⁸⁹² 23:24, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 04:42, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. A candidate for office does not automatically get notability and there are no sources that show WP:N. A search of Google, JSTOR, and Academic OneFile and newspaper databases did not produce additional results. Z1720 (talk) 23:02, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The article is not done yet, which is way it has been moved to UserSpace for now until it's completely done. Woodbridgenews (talk) 02:18, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Woodbridgenews, can you post the additional sources you are going to use in the article? I'm not sure this person has enough notability to warrant an article and I don't want editors to feel like we are deleting their hard work. After the sources are posted below, editors will give their opinion on recommending keeping the article or deleting it. Z1720 (talk) 03:12, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As I mentioned earlier this person is not notable yet, but will become notable in the near future. I was going use his website as one of the source which states he's making a new provincial party in Ontario. That is why I moved the article back to draft from Userspace. Woodbridgenews (talk) 01:44, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Woodbridgenews Unfortunately, Wikipedia doesn't predict future events, and we usually do not keep articles if the person will be notable in the future. Instead, editors look at sources available now to decide if we should keep the article. Creating a political party doesn't guarantee the person will be notable, and I suggest looking at WP:NPOL and WP:GNG to understand Wikipedia's guidelines for a politician's notability. Also, none of the sources I found mention Khan's plans to start a political party. Are you part of this person's campaign team or know this politician personally? If so, I suggest reading WP:COI to understand Wikipedia's policies on editing people we personally know. Please message me on my talk page if you have any questions or concerns. Z1720 (talk) 20:17, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I read that if the person is going to be notable in near future, then we must move the article back to UserSpace or Draft. And yes I was one of the volunteer for his campaign. Woodbridgenews (talk) 22:48, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete We need to firmly stop volunteers on campaigns from being able to contribute to articles on the person they are campaigning for. We also need to stop crystal balling, we have no idea what will happen in the near future, all we know is that Khan does not currently meet notability guidelines.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:48, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I know he's not notable yet, and we don't know about what's written for the future. But I believe he's going to be notable soon with having the provincial political party. I am going to move to article back to draft page and will publish it when Khan is notable. Woodbridgenews (talk) 08:11, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also as per notability guidelines it states that we can have articles as draft for people who are going to become notable in near future. Woodbridgenews (talk) 08:13, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete oer nom --Devokewater (talk) 10:36, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify to allow the editor the time they wish to continue to develop this article. Note that the discussion here must conclude prior to either draftification or deletion, and it should reman where it is pending decision.
A deleted article is not lost. It may be refunded by undeletion with the correct arguments woven at the time it is requested Fiddle Faddle 13:11, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The article as it stands cannot survive in main space Fiddle Faddle 13:24, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and oppose draftification. The subject does not meet WP:NPOL or WP:GNG, and there is no indication that giving the author more time to work on the article will fix the fundamental problem which is that he is not notable. Spicy (talk) 14:33, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to go with the option draftification, as it will give me more time to edit. And the notability of Khan can change in near future. Which is I request this article to be moved to Draft. Woodbridgenews (talk) 07:46, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, without draftification. Spam produced by a member of his campaign team, in its current form the article is written in a promotional tone. Zero independent reliable sources, no evidence of notability. 86.23.86.239 (talk) 01:39, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:POLOUTCOMES and WP:TOOSOON. Far too soon. Bearian (talk) 00:08, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draftification as per Wikipedia guidelines a article can be moved back to draft until the person is notable. It should be moved to draft instead till Khan becomes notable which he is going to become in near future. Woodbridgenews (talk) 01:34, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not seeing how he is going to become notable in the near future, and per Per WP:CRYSTALBALL we don't create pages on people who might gain notability. His sole claim of notability is standing as a candidate in the 2019 Canadian federal election, where he received 165 votes, or 0.3%. His official campaign website has 6 pages and 3 policies, and hasn't been updated since the 2019 election. There's no secondary coverage in any reliable sources, and the only newspaper coverage is a direct quote from the subject. The next Canadian federal election is in 2023, and there's no evidence that he plans to stand in that election, let alone being a notable candidate. 86.23.86.239 (talk) 13:08, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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