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The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  15:48, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

NGO Nayi Umeed (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)

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Its lacks notability Owais Khursheed (Talk to me) 15:54, 8 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  ^B E _C K ^Y _S A ^{Y L} E _S  21:49, 8 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: The creator of this article removed the AfD template from the article and blanked this AfD. This appears to have gone on for 6 days.  ^B E _C K ^Y _S A ^{Y L} E _S  08:23, 16 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete -Lacking significant coverage in multiple secondary, independent and reliable sources, subject fails to satisfy Wikipedia's notability guideline for organisations and general notability guideline. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 14:30, 17 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. At the first place, I tagged the article for deletion because I thought it was lacking notability but I found it quite notable organisation in Haryana after all its works published in local Newspapers of Haryana and Delhi and social awarness programmes in different engineering colleges of Haryana and tens of thousands of people that support the organisation from these states. That confirms notability to me. So it should be included in Wikipedia. Owais Khursheed (Talk to me) 15:31, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You may withdraw your nomination but now that probably doesn't gonna affect the afd. Where are the sources, that you claim the subject has received significant coverage into? Present them here or in the article. "Tens of thousands or trillions of billions of millions people support the organization" is not a valid criteria of inclusion on Wikipedia. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 16:30, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• The sources on Wikipedia need not be online but there are numerous local newspapers of these states that confirms the notability. Owais Khursheed (Talk to me) 16:39, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The NGO is registered [1] NGO of Kurukshetra, Haryana and is famous for helding awareness programmes in different colleges of North India. Owais Khursheed (Talk to me) 16:44, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Again, being a "registered NGO", -is not a valid criteria of inclusion. And, No one is asking you for online sources in particular, but just sources that are independent of the ngo and have discussed in detail the subject. Did you read about NGO in detail in some or many newspapers? List them here or in the article all the sources with enough detail about them that would enable one to go public library and get a copy of the respective offline source. If not, you can't just say that numerous sources exists. You need to prove your claim. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 17:46, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• "Aaj Samaj" Newspaper, date of publication 8 th Nov. 2014 contains details of organisation. Another source is "Yash babu" newspaper on the same day that contains details about the organisation. It contains details of achievements and programmes held in colleges and a recent eye donation programme which was attended by numerous students of the engineering colleges of Kurukshetra. Thats why I was claiming that it is famous in North India. Thanks Owais Khursheed (Talk to me) 05:02, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please cite the respective offline sources using ((cite news)) template in the article. I'll try getting a copy of them in archives or library. However, attention solely from local media or limited media of interest is not an indication of notability. And these are still only two not "multiple" and one is unaware of coverage in there whether it was passing mention or substantial. North India comprises a fairly larger area, at least 20 times larger than Haryana in terms of area and 30 times in terms of population. Being published into Haryanvi local newspapers, doesn't make a thing famous all over North India. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 09:56, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have done it. Owais Khursheed (Talk to me) 18:08, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• keep This organisation is very Notable in northern india . It is working to aware people socially from past couple of year but it got registered on 22nd aug 2014.

In april we organised a safety drive campaign in Kurukshetra, Delhi and Yamuna Nagar where number of people pledge to drive vehicle safely. During time of election in Haryana we started a "cast your Vote campaign" in different colleges and villages of Haryana in which we made the people understand why voting is necessary. On 7th Nov we organised a Eye donation Pledge camp in SKIET college Kurukshetra This organisation is working for the sake of humanity from 2013. So the article NGO Nayi Umeed should not be Removed from Wikipedia. Abh423 (talk) 12:31, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep It is famous organisation in Haryana and National Capital Region.So the article should not be deleted. Muazim Balwan (talk) 15:39, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment It seems like Hindi newspapers such this one discuss the NGO Nayi Umeed. Are there more Hindi newspapers that discuss this organisation? I hope this helps. With regards, Anupam^Talk 07:43, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment -People in-here are talking about subject being a famous organization, but have failed to provide "multiple" independent, reliable sources having significant coverage of the subject. One may not just claim notability, they need to prove it. And, nominator, who later !voted keep appears to be canvassing this afd by asking their batchmate(s) to !vote keep in here. Again, lacking significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources, subject still doesn't appear to be notable for inclusion. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 23:55, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment How do you know that Nominator has told his batchmate to Vote "Keep", it is a free will of every user to vote what he thinks is right. If you will tell every student of Kurukshetra University about the discussion, the maximum % about them will vote 'keep' because they know about this organisation, and there is no harm getting other users involved in the discussion but it should not be intended to get result in one's favor. Talking about sources there are at least two sources that I published here in the form of newspapers of Haryana, I could't find more this time because I am not in the state right now. In my opinion the article should be included in Wikipedia. Owais Khursheed (Talk to me) 15:16, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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