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The result was delete. Spartaz ^Humbug! 07:29, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Improperly recreated article whose AfD was closed two weeks ago (10 March 2018) as "Move to draft" [1]. Still fails WP:NTOUR, and violates WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Softlavender (talk) 06:25, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Pinging participants in the original AfD (which closed 12 days before this article was recreated) for their current opinion: @Drmies, Richard3120, Narky Blert, BD2412, Cornerstonepicker, and Melodies1917:. Pinging closer Spartaz as well. Softlavender (talk) 06:32, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• My vote last time round was for draftify or userfy as WP:TOOSOON. Well, it's still WP:TOOSOON. The fact that a couple of concerts have now taken place doesn't change that. There is still no WP:RS coverage of the tour. My vote this time is either for draftify again; or even for delete for not paying attention to the WP:POLICY-based reasons put forward in the previous discussion (which were pretty much unanimous) and for being a nuisance. Wikipedia is an encylopaedia, recording what has been reliably and independently said to have happened, not a directory of and advertisement for upcoming gigs. I don't care how famous the performer is. Narky Blert (talk) 07:49, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment from nominator: Could redirect (to Camila Cabello) and full-protect the redirect, to prevent the article's re-creation. Softlavender (talk) 11:47, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 08:51, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 08:51, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• As before. And User:IonutB56 really needs to engage in conversation here. Drmies (talk) 01:22, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Drmies, for the sake of the closing admin, could you clarify that by giving a bolded !vote? Softlavender (talk) 01:43, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Delete--for the simple reason that most tours are not notable per NTOUR, so saving a draft is needless. Drmies (talk) 18:02, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment from nominator: Please also note these four redirects created by IonutB56, the article creator and also a brand-new account and SPA: User:Never Be the Same Tour, Never Be the Same Tour (Camila Cabello Tour), Never Be the Same Tour (2018), Never Be the Same Tour. ←with an added period. Something smells ... wrong. Softlavender (talk) 05:14, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • CU had nothing exciting to offer, though User:IonutB56 needs to be pointed out that whole "log in while editing" thing. Gotta run. Drmies (talk) 14:23, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Holding nose. I smell WP:FANCRUFT in all those redirects. Narky Blert (talk) 23:27, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. If the article which is the subject of this discussion gets deleted, then any and every link-in should be WP:G8ed. Narky Blert (talk) 23:41, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment/delete On the last nomination I was a bit indifferent, because there were other tour articles created long before their start date--I named Taylor Swift's Reputation Stadium Tour as the example. This tour begins early next month, but yes, it does lack information; I say delete this for now and keep the Draft. Melodies1917 (talk) 14:42, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Draft Well now is long and full of unsourced content. The one I edited had less content but properly sourced. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 00:22, 27 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: Per "Melodies1917". Raritydash (talk) 06:34, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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