The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Merging is also mentioned, but a suitable target article was not given. Mgm|^(talk) 12:40, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Override (Transformers) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)

This character does not establish notability independent of Transformers through the inclusion of real world information from reliable, third party sources. Most of the information is made up of original research and unnecessary plot details. There is no current assertion for future improvement of the article, so extended coverage is unnecessary. TTN (talk) 20:59, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge to a List of Transformers characters 76.66.195.159 (talk) 08:12, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That page doesn't exist. Mathewignash (talk) 12:19, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep This character has appeared in comic books from 3 different companies over the 20+ years it existed, and is voiced by a actress who had an extensive article when they appeared as a regular in a TV series that had been broadcast in at least two different languages. It's signifigant. Mathewignash (talk) 12:29, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional characters-related deletion discussions. -- the wub "?!" 12:38, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge or Delete - not enough notability established for a separate article. Mathewignash: all the sources in the article seems to be either first party (hasbro) or fansites. Find some secondary WP:Reliable sources to WP:Verify the WP:Notability you claim it has. Siawase (talk) 14:08, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to be nothing will make you happy. Any site I find mentioning Override you will dismiss as a "fan site". It's a fictional character from a comic book and TV show who had a couple toys produced. It won't be mentioned on cnn.com's news. It will be mentioned on web sites that cover news and reviews about cartoon characters and toys though, and those are the ones I mentioned. Mathewignash (talk) 16:02, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge or possibly keep if the sources are sufficient. Even when there are conventional sources for characters, those trying to delete the articles usually object that they are in some way inadequate. But as none of the reason given would apply if the content or a suitable part of it were merged into a combination article, there is no case for outright deletion. See above for a more extended discussion of these nominations. DGG (talk) 16:59, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep While not a major character, the newer character has appeared in multiple series and has potential for expansion. --Polaron | Talk 15:08, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Does not establish notability through significant coverage of real world context in reliable, secondary sources independent of the subject. Jay32183 (talk) 10:42, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per Jay32183. There's no appropriate list to merge to, and I suspect that if one were created, it would be listcruft. Stifle (talk) 11:08, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.