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The result was delete. Cirt (talk) 04:52, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Pumyea II[edit]

Peter Pumyea II (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)

Non-notable person. Unreferenced article. Tagged as not meeting WP:NOTE since December 2007. Not only does it fail WP:NOTE, it fails WP:NOTDIR: Wikipedia articles are not.....genealogical entries. Drawn Some (talk) 02:15, 16 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I am adding Peter Pommieeje to this discussion as it is a redirect to this article. Drawn Some (talk) 02:30, 16 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, as your Google book search shows, the only available references are genealogical directory entries. Since these were people from New Jersey, the references would be most likely to be found in NJ and NY libraries and Google was allowed to scan their books. I am surprised, Benjiboi, that you don't seem to understand WP:NOTDIR or else willfully choose to ignore that consensus that Wikipedia articles are not genealogical entries. Please clarify which is the case because I am trying to AGF here about your comments. I am also concerned that you are dealing with deletion discussions on the basis of emotion rather than actually analyzing the articles and topics. Also please do not make comments that aren't true that I didn't do legwork. Please AGF. Your comments are a personal attack and will NOT be tolerated here on Wikipedia. Drawn Some (talk) 13:47, 16 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
These sources demonstrate that indeed this person is notable enough to be listed even though they died over 200 years ago. You incorrectly state "only available references", these are actually the only available references as of the moment on Google Books. My point is that if these sources are readily available it follows that others exist as well. I'm hardly basing my opinion on emotion but thanks for the allegation of such, AGF indeed. I didn't state you didn't do any searching but that you're working to delete an article that seemingly your main interest is the creator of it rather than the content; and that you seem unwilling to do the legwork of finding and adding the needed sourcing so it may be wisest to let those who are do so. Feel free to to find any personal attack, I'm pretty sure I avoided doing any such thing. -- Banjeboi 14:08, 16 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Another relevant essay would be WP:MILMOS#NOTE which says "any person who is only mentioned in genealogical records or family histories, or is traceable only through primary documents, is probably not notable." Niteshift36 (talk) 14:31, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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