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The result was delete. I don't see the keep arguments as convincing in the face of the source analysis, which is rather damning. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:15, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Petzone[edit]

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non-notable company, sourced to press releases and WP:MILL "coverage" if you can even call it that, as well as black hat SEO. VAXIDICAE💉 18:05, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Kuwait-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:31, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:31, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete As per nom, non-notable company, all sources are press releases, fails WP:GNG. Pilean (talk) 07:09, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, notable in the Kuwaiti context. About a dozen locations isn't bad for a small country like Kuwait, and is also in major mainstream news like the Kuwait Times. DmitriRomanovJr (talk) 17:45, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There is no Kuwaiti context, there is Wikipedia. And it's not notable in Wikipedia context because it's all press releases. Kuwait Times is a listicle with nothing of value about the subject. VAXIDICAE💉 17:52, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete I am unable to locate any deep or significant coverage with in-depth information on the company and containing independent content, references to date fail the criteria for establishing notability, topic therefore fails WP:NCORP. HighKing⁺⁺ 12:50, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak Keep Barely passes WP:GNG, not strong refs but seems enough to pass GNG like Gulf News, Kuwait News Agency, Kuwait Times, Bayut, Khaleej Times and more. Grailcombs (talk) 18:07, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All of which are press releases, which means it's not coverage nor is it independent. VAXIDICAE💉 18:11, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't matter - GNG is the wrong guideline. For companies, the correct guideline is WP:NCORP which is recognised as being stricter than GNG, so if Grailcombs believes is "barely" passed GNG, it has no chance of passing NCORP. HighKing⁺⁺ 11:16, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Enough coverage and meets the notability criteria for a company article. RedElephanty (talk) 17:20, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi RedElephanty, "enough coverage" isn't one of the criteria - can you post a link to any single reference that you believe meets the "notability criteria"? Ta. Also, a *Question - I notice that you have very few edits and yet you created the article in one edit. For a newbie editor, that is very unusual - to have managed to create an article with links and references with no futher editing. Very unusual (did I say that already?). Have you ever edited Wikipedia previously? Do you have a connection with the company? HighKing⁺⁺ 11:21, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• I'd like to note for the closer that none of the keeps here have provided any policy based arguments and their statement that there is sufficient sourcing can easily be demonstrated to be incorrect, see below. VAXIDICAE💉 13:56, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Source assessment table:
Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
https://www.kuna.net.kw/ArticleDetails.aspx?id=2766190&language=en#	~	not even about Pet Zone, just a single mention in passing		✘ No
https://gulfnews.com/lifestyle/community/animal-shelters-clinics-and-take-in-organisations-in-the-uae-1.619824	this is submitted PR	~ primary info only	a single blurb in a listicle	✘ No
https://isoulandbody.wordpress.com/2013/03/25/petzone-kuwait/	blog	random blog, not an independent rs and no indication it has any editorial oversight		✘ No
https://248am.com/mark/animals/petzone-now-largest-pet-store-kuwait/	another random blog, no editorial oversight			✘ No
https://www.arabtimesonline.com/news/pets-keeping-businesses-are-flourishing-in-kuwait/	clearly a press release considering it's an exact copy of #1			✘ No
https://kuwait24hours.com/kuwait-news-2/petzone-kuwait-promotes-responsible-loving-pet-ownership-in-kuwait/	clearly another Pr as it's copied from several other sources			✘ No
http://markets.buffalonews.com/buffnews/news/read/40751726/the_history_behind_the_success_of_petzone	press release			✘ No
https://news.kuwaittimes.net/website/petzone-kuwait-promotes-responsible-loving-pet-ownership-in-kuwait/	This is a mish-mash of a press release combined with an interview, it is not independent	~ for primary info		✘ No
https://kuwaitlocal.com/news/getting-a-new-pet-during-covid19	this is basically a curated local "forum" type blog	literally just a business directory		✘ No
https://www.timeoutdubai.com/time-in-2020/437511-where-to-shop-for-pet-food-and-supplies-online-in-the-uae	just a directory listing			✘ No
https://www.bayut.com/mybayut/pet-adoption-centres-dubai/	another glorified business listing			✘ No
https://themagazineplus.com/2020/12/12/the-history-behind-the-success-of-petzone/	another press release			✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using ((source assess table)).

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