The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 23:29, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This article was previously deleted a year ago, and was a redirect to Playstation 3 before a couple of editors decided to make this page into a short article, and I don't want to start an edit war so I am bringing it here. This is a speculative article about a non-100%-confirmed (as I understand) product, expected for release in 2016. Wikipedia is not an infinite list of information, or a crystal ball. — FireFox ^(talk) _{16:12, 05 August '06}

• Delete: Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. --David Mestel^(Talk) 16:16, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Stong Redirect - I believe this article should be redirected rather then deleted. That was what happened with the Halo 3 article before the game was announced [1] (it was redirected to Halo (video game series)) SNS 16:22, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirected to what? --Mr. Lefty _{Talk to me!} 16:24, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - Well originally I had it redirected to PlayStation 3 but there might be a better place to redirect it (perhaps Sony?). SNS 16:27, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Sony or PlayStation 3, I don't really care, but at the very least it might stop people from making speculation articles about it. --Mr. Lefty _{Talk to me!} 16:29, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom and David Mestel. If we want to end speculation articles on it, maybe protect the deleted page at least until the PS3 is deleted. (Or until Rocky 8 is announced.) -- H·G (^words/_works) 19:22, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete and redirect to Sony Computer Entertainment or something else, I don't really care what. Big crystal ball, we don't even know if the PlayStation 3 will be sucessful yet. BryanG^(talk) 19:25, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions. -- ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 21:01, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Sony until much closer to release. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 21:01, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep This project (PS4) is in early phase development, but definitely is in development ! New information about the project is released and leaked as time passes, so this article should be where it is all collected and built up over time. 81.154.251.229 21:10, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Wikipedia is not a crystal ball - but then, this article does not try to be one. The Playstation 4 will eventually come out, so it seems best to just build up teh article as and when teh info comes out rather than to delete right now and have to write it all over again later. Dev920 21:57, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment as per WP:VER Verifiability is the threashold not truth. That means even if it is true that a Playstation 4 will come out if there no reliabile source that can colleberate it an artilce about it cannot be kept. This is official policy. In short this artilce has to be deleted at this time. --Edgelord 23:13, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been added to the list of CVG deletions. Ace of Sevens 23:46, 5 August 2006 (UTC) Ace of Sevens 23:46, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete or redirect I don't care which as long as we're rid of it. Ace of Sevens 23:46, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. No redirect, because a PS4 will not be a PS3. hateless 23:50, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Delete No reason to exist, at all. Projects that won't even be completed until 2016, and which will be secret until perhaps 2013, are not encyclopedic. RandyWang (^raves/_{review me!}) 23:53, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - Sure Sony claims the PS3 will last 10 years now but other companies have made similar claims in the past & then they change their minds. Nintendo for example once claimed that the Gamecube would last 10 years SNS 00:13, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment That's not what they mean. They mean they will continue supporting PS3 until 2016, nto that it won't be replaced before that. They claim 10-year life on the PS1 as well because of continued support long after PlayStation 2 was released. Ace of Sevens 00:19, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Until information starts coming out there is no need for this article. Konman72 01:03, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong delete. This is up there with, say, 2030 FIFA World Cup. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, and just because one detail is known doesn't mean we need to make an article right away. --Coredesat talk. ^_^ 03:32, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete; The Playstation 3 might be the last in the line of Playstations. How are we to know otherwise? -/- Warren 04:40, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete until there's a major announcement. WP is not a rumor mill. - Wickning1 13:57, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Remove & Redirect Remove the content and redirect PlayStation 4 over to PlayStation 3. Havok (T/C/c) 07:04, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete definitely Alexnye 08:47, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Category:PlayStation. While I have no doubt there will be a PS4, this article is about 5 years too premature. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 09:44, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Crystal balling. It's assuming that Sony will name the next system the PlayStation 4 instead of using a new different name. --TheFarix (Talk) 14:48, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.