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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 16:25, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
Ramina Torabi
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A version of this article was sent to draft at Draft:Ramina Torabi as it was a BLP with 20 fake references, all of which led to wiki websites that never existed. The creator has trimmed this down to 12 references, all of which are still fake wiki websites that never existed. The external links are both genuine but neither establish WP:GNG or WP:NMODEL, I am concerned about Lilit as they state their intention is to promote the artists that they feature.
I have searched "رامینا ترابی" as part of a WP:BEFORE but can't find any WP:RS showing clear significant coverage. A lot of the articles are either just passing mentions or simply regurgitating her Instagram pictures or user-generated content.
This may well be eligible for WP:G5 speedy deletion soon as an active CU request has been opened at SPI, which is heavily backlogged. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 20:00, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 20:00, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 20:00, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- Comment I also failed to find any working citations. (I was doing basic research to fix minor errors in what is now the draft, having assumed that the article was wanted.) Certes (talk) 20:06, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete As per nom. No indication of notability. References fail to establish notability of the subject. DMySon (talk) 01:51, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
* Comment : I have created all the sources. Therefore, I request that the page be created and the tag be removed. I will also add 20 new sources.E B R A M (talk) 05:29, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- Source analysis - wow, that's an hour of my life that I wish I could claim back... Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 09:52, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Per User:Spiderone's table. Furius (talk)
Source assessment table:
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| Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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| https://lilit.ir/INDEX/ | ? | ? |  She isn't mentioned even once
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✘ No |
| http://www.nazweb.ir/307298-%D8%A8%DB%8C%D9%88%DA%AF%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%81%DB%8C-%D8%AC%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%AF-%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%85%DB%8C%D9%86%D8%A7-%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A8%DB%8C-%D8%B2%DB%8C%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%AA%D8%B1%DB%8C%D9%86-%D9%85.html |
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I can't see any author named or any reputation for fact checking
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This appears to be a hyper-promotional user-generated profile page which is significantly identical to a lot of the others that follow
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✘ No |
| https://photokade.com/%D8%A8%DB%8C%D9%88%DA%AF%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%81%DB%8C-%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%85%DB%8C%D9%86%D8%A7-%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A8%DB%8C/ |
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No author or journalist. No indication from website that source is reliable. Interesting that she is declared as single here but other sources say she is married, which just indicates that this is a mess.
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Another user-generated bio with same copied and pasted content
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✘ No |
| https://business-search.info/ramina-torabi/ | A quick perusal of this website shows that it's 100% user-generated spam
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✘ No |
| https://lilit.ir/52198/ | This website's aim is to promote the artists that feature in it so I presume there is some amount of COI here
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✘ No |
| https://enfejar.vip/admins/ramina-torabi/ | Again we have to disregard this as it's yet another clone bio 'article' hosted on a betting site. Why are these all on betting sites?!
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✘ No |
| https://pokerbama.info/other/ramina-torabi/ | See #6. Honestly, this is identical!
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✘ No |
| https://www.moevir.com/model/ |
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Site doesn't exist
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✘ No |
| https://niksho.com/%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%85%DB%8C%D9%86%D8%A7-%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A8%DB%8C-%D8%B2%DB%8C%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%AA%D8%B1%DB%8C%D9%86-%D8%AF%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%B1-%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%A7%DB%8C%D9%86%D8%B3.html |
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~ This website seems to have some regulated content but this particular post looks to be a copy-paste of some of the user-generated/sponsored stuff | Literally just reposting her Instagram photos
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✘ No |
| https://saten.ir/167859/%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%85%DB%8C%D9%86%D8%A7-%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A8%DB%8C-%DA%A9%DB%8C%D8%B3%D8%AA-%D9%88-%DA%86%DA%AF%D9%88%D9%86%D9%87-%D9%85%D8%AF%D9%84-%D8%B4%D8%AF%D8%9F-%D8%B9%DA%A9%D8%B3-%D8%A7/ramina-torabi/ | ? | Website appears to be full of clickbait and spam. There is some authored content but not much.
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No coverage
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✘ No |
| https://www.shomanews.com/%D8%A8%D8%AE%D8%B4-%D9%81%D8%B1%D9%87%D9%86%DA%AF-%D9%87%D9%86%D8%B1-10/908602-%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%85%DB%8C%D8%AA%D8%A7-%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A8%DB%8C-%D9%85%D8%AF%D9%84-%D9%85%D8%B4%D9%87%D8%B1-%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86%DB%8C-%D8%A7%D8%B2%D8%AF%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%AC-%DA%A9%D8%B1%D8%AF-%D8%AA%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%88%DB%8C%D8%B1-%D8%AC%D9%86%D8%AC%D8%A7%D9%84%DB%8C-%D9%84%D9%88-%D8%B1%D9%81%D8%AA%D9%87 | ? | Site poses as a news site but, upon clicking several articles, it's just a bunch of database scraping bio pages. I couldn't find anything that looked like it was produced by an actual journalist and not a database scraping bot.
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Duplicates content from the other sources
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✘ No |
| https://namagard.com/ramina-torabi-biography/ |
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Not an article. Just duplication of the exact same content as sources above.
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✘ No |
| https://mejene.com/model/%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%85%DB%8C%D9%86%D8%A7-%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A8%DB%8C/ | ? | ? This is a Persian fashion mag. I can't see any indication of how much fact checking is involved but there is actually an author declared here, which is at least something. | ~ Some coverage. Author appears to write about other things so can believe that this wasn't just posted by Torabi's agent/marketing team | ? Unknown |
| https://farsiha.ir/%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%85%DB%8C%D9%86%D8%A7-%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A8%DB%8C-%D8%A7%D8%B2%D8%AF%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%AC-%DA%A9%D8%B1%D8%AF%D9%85%D8%AF%D9%84-%D9%85%D8%B4%D9%87%D9%88%D8%B1-%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%B1%D8%A7/ |
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I couldn't find any indication of any professional journalism anywhere on this site, which is full of clickbait and user-generated copypaste bios
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Routine coverage
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✘ No |
| https://behtarin.bio/ramina-torabi/ |
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Blog
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Copied and pasted bio posted by 'user0037'
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✘ No |
| https://iranmodeling.net/ramina-torabi/ | ? | ? Appears to be reputable somewhat | Barely any
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✘ No |
| http://esfahanemrooz.ir/69637-%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%AF%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%AC-%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%85%DB%8C%D9%86%D8%A7-%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A8%DB%8C-%D9%85%D8%AF%D9%84-%D8%A8%D8%A8%D9%88%DA%AF%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%81%DB%8C.html | ? |
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Absolutely nothing to add on previous spam bios
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✘ No |
| http://timekhosh.com/2019/05/04/%D8%A8%DB%8C%D9%88%DA%AF%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%81%DB%8C-%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%85%DB%8C%D9%86%D8%A7-%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A8%DB%8C-%D9%88-%D9%87%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%B1%D8%B4-%D9%85%D8%B5%D8%A7%D8%AD%D8%A8%D9%87-%D9%88/ |
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Blog website which is full of user-generated spam bios of 'celebrities'
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✘ No |
| http://www.mevia.ir/ch/%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%85%DB%8C%D9%86%D8%A7_%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A8%DB%8C_%DA%A9%DB%8C%D8%B3%D8%AA | ? | ? | ? I haven't downloaded the video as I don't trust the website and don't think it's safe. | ? Unknown |
| https://rayanworld.com/20200609102725001/Ramina-Torabi-the-model-migrated-to-Turkey?subarticle=10 | 
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A collection of photos. The captions are all generic and don't discuss Torabi.
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✘ No |
| This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using ((source assess table)). | ||||
- Delete per Spiderone's extensive list as there's no evidence of GNG and while COI editing isn't prohibited, this comment from the creator that they "created the sources" and want help registering the page leads me to believe we're just here for their promotional purposes. Star Mississippi 13:00, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
*Comment
However, I got all the sources right.
Therefore, in my opinion, according to the comments on the page, it should be revived.
And remove the label.
thanks all.E B R A M (talk) 14:40, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- if the discussion ends in keeping this article, the tag will be removed. Not before. Please disclose any necessary conflicts of interest Star Mississippi 00:13, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
*keep .I fixed all the sources that had problems.E B R A M (talk) 14:50, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per the source assessment table by Spiderone; the recent additions of statements describing a source as a news outlet, e.g. [1], [2], [3], does not improve compliance with the WP:RS guideline. Beccaynr (talk) 16:34, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and Spiderone's table. Spam article, pretty clear cut. – Broccoli & Coffee (Oh hai) 18:10, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete speedy delete Mardetanha (talk) 14:57, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete, fails GNG. Potentially speedy delete under G5 but this has been open for a while so can be just a deletion.--Eostrix (🦉 hoot hoot🦉) 07:40, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
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