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The result was Nomination withdrawn. Jayron32 17:43, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reality Killed The Video Star

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article displays almost no notability of a band.keystoneridin! (talk) 06:29, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. —Cliff smith ^talk 15:13, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Rewrite nomination please. This article is not about a band, and trying to say that Robbie Williams is not notable makes no sense. I think its something like WP:CRYSTAL you are looking for, but I cannot tell. Sjakkalle (Check!) 06:34, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Crystal ball only applies on speculation. We have many articles on future products (video games for example). The provided source narrows it down to the month. I'm not sure where the 30th comes from.--Crossmr (talk) 06:37, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep how anyone could doubt the notability or Robbie Williams when it is linked is beyond me. Very few, if any, album articles would contain the "notability of a band" that is left for the band/singer's article. There is a reliable source which puts the release in October 2009 (not sure where the 30th came from), but it is sourced and clearly notable.--Crossmr (talk) 06:39, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Notability is not inherited. The article makes no independent assertion of notability, lacks sources for even the date, which is questioned by an editor voting 'keep', and doesn't even have any 'during production' information, interviews, critics saying they await it... it's got nothing but a possible totle and release date. Not enough, per WP:CRYSTAL. ThuranX (talk) 07:35, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
MTV with the date of 23 October [1], Focus (German) [2], Gala [3], Radio7 [4], there are 58 google news results in the last month. Someone would have to lok at the non-english versions to see exactly what they say about it and if they're all reliable sources, but that is a lot of entertainment sources that google considers news worth talking about the album.--Crossmr (talk) 08:27, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The German "Focus" source says that Williams will make his comeback with this album in October. Focus is a German news magazine, similar to Newsweek. Radio7 mostly talks about how the new album is better than Rudebox and confirms Trevor Horn's work on it but does not mention a release date. Regards So Why 09:18, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like that would satisfy WP:N.--Crossmr (talk) 09:42, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to Juliuscaesar100-44 (talk · contribs) mainly, the article now has 9 reliable sources and is at DYK length. I have asked the nominator to withdraw the AFD (and ThuranX whether he still believes it delete-worthy), if they do, we can bring it to DYK. Regards So Why 09:54, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Withdraw Nomination - article has expanded since this nomination, and thus does not require the action of this panel.keystoneridin! (talk) 16:53, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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