The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. Editors have found that the article has been significantly improved since its initial nomination and it now demonstrates notability. TheSandDoctor ^Talk 17:27, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Samahang Ilokano[edit]

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Completely unsourced article about a student organization with no strong claim to passing WP:ORG. As always, organizations are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they exist, and have to be shown to pass WP:GNG and WP:ORGDEPTH on their sourceability -- but this cites no references at all, and has been tagged for lacking sources since 2007 without ever having any new sources added. Bearcat (talk) 12:44, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations and Philippines. Bearcat (talk) 12:44, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fraternities and sororities-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 13:08, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to Mariano Marcos State University In addition to the original comments about a lack of sources, the group's webpage is defunct. I found no sources through Google.v{[User:Rublamb|Rublamb]] (talk) 16:45, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Disagree. Samahang Ilokano is not mentioned at that page. Avoid surprise... (And unless something changes, I'm in the delete camp)Naraht (talk) 12:29, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. I'm betting that even in Mariano Marcos State University, the org isn't significant enough. --- Tito Pao (talk) 13:30, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Hold. I've found a few actual references (manila standard newspaper, philstar). Also, as far as I'm concerned Ilocano and Ilokano are both used and references apply under both names.Naraht (talk) 21:06, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Thanks to your discovery of the dual spelling, I too have found newspaper sources that have been added. At first, I thought I was doing well to discover 24 chapters only to learn that there are more than 400 around the world.

• Keep - The article needs more references, but at least it now has several. Thanks to those who have started searching for more. It should remain an active page, and a work in progress while this is sorted out. Even if it has recently gone dormant, it may meet the bar of notability. Jax MN (talk) 22:11, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Jax MN, what is the info that it has gone dormant? Frankly an ethnic fraternity with strong connections into the community and, IMO, a weak central structure is likely to stay active short of acts by the Philippine government that are *highly* unlikely, and even then the overseas groups would likely stay active.Naraht (talk) 13:41, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Naraht, I noted that only as an extreme outside possibility, and did not mean to infer that the group was dormant. I agree with your sensibilities on the unlikelihood of dormancy. It looks to me as if they are quite active, even if they don't have a working website. Further, the group appears notable because of age, number of participants over the years, and extensive activity over the years. Jax MN (talk) 16:20, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - This is an international organization, not a local or regional group as previously believed. It has more than 400 chapters and at least a million members, supporting its claim of being a significant Filipino cultural organization. Sources have been added to the article that support its notability. I only added a few sources but find there to be many more out there, especially when using spelling variations. Rublamb (talk) 02:11, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Meets WP:ORG per WP:HEY. Sources in the article are reliable enough, with some in-depth IMV. SBKSPP (talk) 03:31, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.