The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
I assume it is a good faith, but probably misguided attempt to be consistent. Since other finalists' article(s) have been deleted(?) they have decided to see if they can all be deleted. But the problem is we can't just make sweeping generalizations like that. Each subject or article needs to be considered independently and we need to make policy- and guideline- based arguments for deletion or inclusion. —LinguistAtLarge • Talk 17:06, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - this is as a result of the delete close at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Alexis_Grace_(2nd_nomination). Personally, I think a redirect would be a far better outcome of this process. Similar arguments apply to all of these as were applied at this particular AfD Fritzpoll (talk) 16:56, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - But still, what is the argument for deletion for this article, not a different article. It is Scott Maclntyre that is being discussed, not Alexis Grace. Jenuk1985 | Talk 16:59, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or redirect to American Idol (season 8). Whilst the nomination appears a little pointed, I think these should be discussed on the same grounds as the participants at Alexis Grace mentioned. A lack of notability beyond the single event (per WP:BLP1E) of being in American Idol. WikiProject precedents or standards are irrelevant in comparison to our own policies - we already have an article covering the event, so individual articles can be merged there if there is any additional material, in which case a redirect should take place. Fritzpoll (talk) 17:04, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Without having too much knowledge of the article... "If the event is significant, and the individual's role within it is a large one, a separate article for the person is sometimes appropriate." could probably be applied here, as I understand it American Idol is a rather large event over there, and the contestants have a rather large role within it. Jenuk1985 | Talk 17:10, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I seriously wish these had been nommed all together - save our copy-pasting! :) I don't think the event is significant - I interpret that to refer to something more important than a TV show. Say the assassin in a presidential assassin - you would expect an article on them, because it was a significant event - a TV show is unlikely to be significant in the same way. Your mileage may, of course, vary Fritzpoll (talk) 17:15, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep - appears to have some notability because of the number of awards, scholarships, etc. that he has achieved in addition to the Idol appearance. Fritzpoll (talk) 17:47, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - notable outside of the American Idol series for academic background and singing awards. Multiple reliable secondary sources (would like to see more, but bearable). Gazimoff 17:49, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per above. Additional experience which combines up with Idol to warrant the article. CrazyC83 (talk) 18:48, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect The "additional experience" is winning an insignificant local award from the University he attended. - Mgm|(talk) 23:37, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - lots of notable information besides Idol, and will need a full article anyway after Idol experience. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Candyo32 (talk • contribs) 00:00, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep Featured by CNN.--23prootie (talk) 00:43, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep There is no reason for this nonsense. The article has staying power, and I don't know why Alexis Grace was deleted.--Jojhutton (talk) 02:45, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It was due to politicking of a few, If you saw the previous discussions you would see how some HATED the show wuth Passion.23prootie (talk) 02:52, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Passes multiple criteria in WP:Music, most importantly #9: "Has won or placed in a major music competition." American Idol is one of the biggest music competitions.
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