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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:56, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sikh Soudhan Wars (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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I'm already discussing two similar articles by the same creator at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sudhanoti, it would be nice if some people could take a look there as well.

Here, we have something called apparently the "Sikh Soudan Wars", or the "Sikh Sudhan Wars", or the "Sikh Sidhnuti War". The section for the "First Sikh Sudhan War" has one source[1] which doesn't mention Sudhan, Soudhan, or Sidhnuti.

The Second War, about "Pindi Kahota, the main gate of Sudhnuti" being bombarded and so on, is sourced to [2], which doesn't mention Kahota, and this, which also doesn't mention Kahota. In fact, there are apparently no sources at all for Ranjit Singh taking an army of 40000 to Pindi Kahota[3][4] nor for the same with "Pindi Kahuta", which I suppose is what was meant.

Basically, what we need is two or so good sources actually naming and discussing the "Sikh Sudhan Wars" as such. Without this, this is some fabrication at worst, or at best reframing some actual events into a new narrative. Fram (talk) 09:01, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Military, and Jammu and Kashmir. Fram (talk) 09:01, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 14:47, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:25, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:28, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom, pretty clear the writer resorted to the AfC trick of spamming references to show notability, except in this case it's spamming refernces to show verifiability without having to assign a claim to a given citation. I suppose a full BEFORE search ought to be by someone who speaks Punjabi and/or is familiar with the military history of the region, but given the lack of understanding by the writer of basic PAGs, and the low quality of the prose, I'm fine with presumptively deleting this. Mach61 (talk) 00:36, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete – Serious WP:V problems and elevate risk of being a hoax/spam. As users familiar with the subject appear, it may be recreated later but for now it seems to be a case of WP:TNT. Svartner (talk) 14:44, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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