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The result was Keep (non-admin closure) — Caknuck 00:19, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Smoking age (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

The article is about the legal tobacco smoking age in various countries. I have trying to clean up and wikify the article, but I also feel like it is nothing more than an indiscriminate list of information. The information could be useful, but maybe in an article with a different name or focus. This afd is not so much that I think this page definitely needs to be deleted, but that the article itself and its content could be used in a different, more effective manner. Clamster 19:21, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

At this point, I think the page should be used and organized in a similar fashion to legal drinking age. Clamster 23:52, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep I don't see this being indiscriminant list at all. Notable legal characteristic of countries, and having an at-a-glance summary of the whole world works well. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 20:33, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Needs some rather serious cleanup, but this seems every bit as valid an article as legal drinking age and age of consent. You should probably remove the bits on laws regarding smoking, though, as those aren't really related. Zetawoof_(ζ) 21:25, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep with some massive need for work. I would recommend transforming this into a table rather than split off by sections, preferably sortable. I'm willing to work on that myself. There is a serious problem with sourcing, and I'd like to see the page moved to a slightly more intuitive title, such as Legal smoking age by country. Arkyan • ^(talk) 21:55, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Looking at the article a little harder reveals a problem - this is less about minimum smoking ages as much as it is about smoking laws in general. Several of the entries do not list what the minimum age is at all, and the majority of the information seems more concerned with advertising regulations and bans rather than ages. I still think a sortable table by age is warranted, but I'm wondering if there's more that needs done here than just that. Arkyan • ^(talk) 22:02, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Write up as an article about laws regarding smoking in general. Start off with your sortable age table, then delve into each nation's additional restrictions. Maybe. -- saberwyn 23:29, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 16:39, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep notable concept deserving of encyclopedic treatment; the current state of the article is not irreparable. Carlossuarez46 18:18, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - lots of work needed, but should be kept I think. Anonymous Dissident^Talk 23:59, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Carlossuarez46. --EarthPerson 20:49, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: Researchers and policy students will find it useful to have a comparison all in one place. Hu 09:28, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.