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The result was delete. - filelake shoe  13:53, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The P Affection[edit]

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Band of only local notability posted by an apparently COI editor. Of the three EPs, one was free and one is unreleased. No indication of how they meet the music notability guidelines. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:38, 26 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete this and the Cakes For Occasions album article. I'm finding matches for this band on social networking sites, blogs, and online retailers, but very little in-depth coverage in reliable sources beyond the piece in Leinster Leader, the group's local newspaper; does not appear to be enough material at this time to meet WP:GNG or WP:BAND. Gongshow ^Talk 09:55, 26 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. — sparklism ^hey! 10:28, 26 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I agree with Gongshow: the only in-depth coverage so far has been in their local paper, and I don't think that is enough to warrant inclusion at the present time. — sparklism ^hey! 10:37, 26 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
KeepI apologize for the confusion, the article that is now up of the site is simply a template with the basic shell outline of the band. The band warrants much notability as they have been included in the 20th anniversary showcase of the IMRO (Irish Musical Rights Organization) tour, McCauley, the core member is the son of Famed IRA Engineer and Colombia Three member Martin McCauley to which he has spoken about. They have also released three free EPs and Two albums to date, I can include links to all of the relavent information for these releases. If you could give me some time to finish including all my sources it would be much appreciated. I would also like to appeal the deletion of Cakes For Occasions and the already deleted Padraig McCauley & The P AffectionUser_Talk:The P Affection 12:22, 26 November 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thepaffection (talk • contribs) [reply]
- I have now included more information on their label, sources from Hotpress, Ireland's biggest music Magazine, Imro The internationally recognised Irish musical Rights Organization plus the Day and Night Magazine, a supplement of the Irish Independent One of the biggest newspapers in Ireland. User_Talk:The P Affection 12:22, 26 November 2012 (UTC)Thepaffection (talk) 12:44, 26 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Gongshow - also note that the original creator has been indefinitely blocked for being a pure promotional account. Lukeno94 (talk) 19:45, 26 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Gongshow and Lukeno94 --Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 21:19, 26 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The Hot Press source looks like the strongest example of coverage in a non-local reliable source, but other than that I don't feel that there's enough at the moment to support an article. --Michig (talk) 22:48, 26 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above. I cleaned up a good chunk of the article and removed the absolute worst sources, however what is left does not show notability for the group.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 06:20, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've tagged the album article under A9. It's not promotional but it is a non-notable album and could probably go under A9.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 06:22, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A9 doesn't apply while this article is still here and shouldn't have been used. --Michig (talk) 07:02, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You can't use A9 while the band has an article? If that's the case then it should probably be listed somewhere in the speedy page, because I didn't see anything that said I couldn't.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 11:23, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Think he was referring to the AfD. Lukeno94 (talk) 13:56, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, I was referring to the speedy of the album. It's quite clear on WP:CSD for A9: "An article about a musical recording that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant and where the artist's article does not exist (both conditions must be true)." --Michig (talk) 20:18, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently, you can - the article was deleted under A9 and G11. Lukeno94 (talk) 08:58, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No you can't. The deleting admin used A9 incorrectly. As this article is heading for deletion which would then have led to the album article being deleted, the end result is the same, but A9 is only valid once the artist article is deleted. Ideally in cases like this the album article would be included in the AfD nomination. --Michig (talk) 17:39, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ah! I see it now! Sorry about that- I fail at reading. Should we request for it to be re-added? We can always re-nominate it for a speedy or an AfD and have it re-deleted afterwards.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 06:18, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No - it was also deleted under G11. Lukeno94 (talk) 10:11, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.