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The result was delete. The sole "keep" argument, unfortunately, seemed to be a combination of WP:NEGLECT, WP:LOTSOFSOURCES and WP:PLEASEDONT. Sorry Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:38, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The Young and the Restless episodes[edit]
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Page contains absolutely no reliable sources, and to attempt to create a comprehensive list of episodes for an American soap opera, which airs five-days per week, and dates back to 1973, it would be humanly impossible to accomplish. livelikemusic talk! 12:49, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Jupitus Smart 19:22, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
we have lists of episodes for other programs, not sure why we couldn't have them for this?Deathlibrarian (talk) 10:20, 15 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly. To say that to create this list would be "humanly impossible to accomplish" is a little bit defeatist. There is a definite interest among viewers of this show to understand where the show came from and the links from this list provide that information in a month-by-month, week-by-week fashion, with notable individual episodes listed as well. This information is not readily available and has been compiled from a number of newspaper and magazine sources, as well as the original scripts themselves. Many viewers have requested that such a list/ episode guide be made. It is at least, if not more important, than the article about Genoa City which lists information which is not actually specifically mentioned on the show (ie addresses of characters' houses). There is no reason why the article can't be moved back as a user draft until it is complete, but to delete it entirely is to stymie the goodwill efforts of a user who aims to provide in-depth knowledge and research about this show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.104.92.132 (talk) 11:35, 15 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:37, 15 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. The above comments from the IP are taken into account, as it is possible to do a complete list of the tens of thousands of episodes for this soap. Summaries of soaps though should be limited to important storylines that can be summarised in a block of episodes, not every single one. Ajf773 (talk) 18:28, 16 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Firstly, it should be moved to List of The Young and the Restless episodes, as is standard practice for television episode lists. However, and secondly, is should begin as a draft article to prevent future AfD listings. Thirdly, separate episode list articles should have more than just production codes and the years they fall under. There needs to be a home list of episodes, with forks/branches to the respective years, because this show has another three years contracted and could total ~12,000 episodes. — Wyliepedia 18:46, 16 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as per Ajf773; failing that, move as per Wyliepedia. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:27, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Deleting this page is a bit of a drastic step. The user should be given a chance to incorporate the changes recommended. If you look at the page, it does actually have links to the first three years of the show (I'm assuming this was what was meant by "forks/ branches to the respective years") and I'm sure the user will add years more as time progresses. It seems like it is difficult to provide much more information on this page other than the episode numbers because soaps don't actually have episodes with proper title names like TV series do. The page The Young and the Restless characters is in a similar position to this page in that it does not provide much more information other than the character names and only one citation - but it then has links to each character. Nobody suggests that page should be deleted so I see no problem in keeping this page (Young and the Restless episodes) for the same reason. The argument put forward that this page has no citations is a bit unfair - they've given one source at least, which is the William Bill script archive at the UCLA - I'm not sure how else they can reference episode numbers. If you look at the pages for the individual years, there are citations - indeed, 1976 gives a lot of citations. The yearly pages also do the episodes in (weekly or monthly) blocks of episodes, as has been suggested above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Medhergon1 (talk • contribs) 07:47, 22 July 2017 (UTC) — Medhergon1 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 07:55, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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