The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep, consensus is that the article is probably notable but needs a rewrite. Davewild (talk) 18:05, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tony Rotherham[edit]

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Blatant advert for an actor. At least the author has had the honesty to declare her COI - here. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 00:03, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• This is not an advert, this is an informative page about a man who dedicates his life in teaching people about proper history. He has alot of knowledge to offer, in fact so much he's practically an institution on his own. He does not need an advert as he's now working solely as an re-enactor for his own pleasure and educational purposes. I have removed any external links that might be compromising.

Yes I have made his websites, for free. There is no money involved, so it's no COI. As he's a friend and has a teacher's income as that's what he does these days. There's no conflict of interest, I am just someone making a page about an interesting person. What is the difference between an info page about him or a band. (probably made by fans or someone within their record company; isn't that conflict of interest?). I mean, Christopher Walken is on here too for example. He's an actor. But JUST an actor. This is not an actor's article, this is an article about someone who's much more than that and with all his knowledge, almost being an encyclopedia himself, deserves a place on here.

I am trying hard to make it just an infopage, there are no external links, even though pages about other 'famous' people have loads to fansites and all and they said I needed to put in refs. Just because he's not world famous, does not make this any more of an advert than any other page about any other artist, musician or whatever.

Instead of calling 'fire' right away I would appreciate it if people would first tell me about it on my talk page and more calmly explain to me, a new user to wikipedia, who already had an overload of input trying to get through all the rules and just making a page like I've seen about other people on here aplenty, why it would be wrong and what would be wrong. It's no different in content as far as I can tell. What makes him less deserving of a place than say Robert de Niro? They're both just humans doing their thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Philoelpistina (talk • contribs) 00:30, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete not notable. JuJube (talk) 01:27, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. The article was missing references, so I found some at Google News archive and added them. I think that notability is now established. --Eastmain (talk) 01:38, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and actresses-related deletion discussions. —Eastmain (talk) 01:42, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Seems fine to me. References are still a little thin, but with some being found easily by Eastmain (above) leads me to believe there is reasonable potential for even more. -- Ned Scott 02:56, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Rewrite and keep. The current version is heavily cut-and-pasted from Rotherham's personal site and needs to be rewritten for tone, but he seems notable enough as a minor actor. --McGeddon (talk) 08:44, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak Keep It reads like an ad, and there are very few references. Dbrodbeck (talk) 14:33, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Nice CV, but references don't pass WP:BIO muster. Specifically, the references only mention his name in the context of a quote or two. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 16:44, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Rewrite and keep Seems notable. Needs heavy work &; rewrite. -- I've read his sources and there "not great" to say the least, but it DOES look like he has some notability. He has been in a few movies, and thats the requirement per WP:BIO. CindyAbout/T/P/C/ 03:19, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.