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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 05:56, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Treamis World School
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REFUNDed following a soft delete, but nothing that has been added meets requirements of independent, reliable sourcing. Even if top ten international school in Bangalore was sourced, it's still not enough. Star Mississippi 01:48, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Education, Schools, and India. Star Mississippi 01:48, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Still no improvement and absent coverage from Independent sources. Needs reliable independent sources. Fails WP:SIGCOV and WP:N RangersRus (talk) 13:01, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- The article has been edited to make sure that it only has content on affiliation which is verifiable through the citation provided in the reference. At this point, it does not have content that is not verifiable. As the article is improved, the appropriate citations will be added. Kayenvee (talk) 13:02, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Kayenvee, thank you, but I think you may perhaps misunderstand what is required now. We need to demonstrate that this article is about a notable school, per WP:N. To demonstrate this we need to show it is discussed, with significant coverage, in reliable independent secondary sources. Books, research papers and documentaries are all fine. Magazine articles would generally be fine too, although news reporting coverage in newspapers generally would not be. We don't want to delete the article, but we do need to demonstrate that there is an encyclopaedic subject. That is, we need to have something to say about the school, rather than just noting its existence. Are you aware of any such coverage? Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 13:30, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Got it. Thanks. Some improvement now. Kayenvee (talk) 14:42, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - It exists, but it is hard to find more on it in English language sources. I will leave it a few days to see if Kayenvee, who requested the refund, is able to demonstrate any sourcing. Now would be the time. I could not even see an enrollment figure when I searched. At the moment, without any better sourcing, I am certainly leaning delete. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 13:31, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Karnataka-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 18:08, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete As an international school, you would expect to find enough English-language sources on the school if it was able to meet notability standards. I nominated this page for AfD a few weeks ago and I am still unable to find sources to justify keeping this page. Kayenvee's user account is also purely used to edit this article spanning multiple years. I suspect WP:COI. pinktoebeans (talk) 19:18, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Sourcing Thanks to Kayenvee for your efforts thus far. At this point the article now has 11 sources. However, most of these are newspaper reports that are usually going to run into an issue of being primary sources - reports of an event such as the swimming event in source 8, for instance.[1] I think all of these sources are primary, but I was somewhat impressed by [2] (this one is self published and primary) and [3] (primary but published in a reliable source). Despite issues with using them, both these sources speak to some level of notability, in that a school whose students are winning national or prestigous awards and getting mentioned in national newspapers may well be notable. The case is not made yet, but neither am I ready to say it can't be made. I am making this comment now so that we can see if any secondary sourcing exists. Please note that non English sources are allowed too, if such exist. The problem I still have is that I cannot find any such sources, although it does get mentioned in a couple of research papers, e.g. this one on teacher burnout during COVID.[4] Those are not quite what we need though. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 17:08, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- And just a follow up thought. Am I right in saying that this school is one of a collection of Cambridge international schools? Maybe rather than a page on this school there should be a page on the CIS schools as a group and this could be merged into that. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 17:16, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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