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The result was redirect‎ to International Four Days Marches Nijmegen. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 19:39, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Valkhof Festival

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A decade without refs is enough. No secondary sources obvious in google (but I admit to no speaking Dutch). PROD'd twice. History of apparent COI. Stuartyeates (talk) 20:32, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Music, Events, and Netherlands. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 21:55, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Minor technical comment: the festival was originally named "de-Affaire" then renamed the Valkhof Festival. I moved the de-Affaire article to Valkhof Festival but when I look at the article, my browser renders "Valkhof Festival" as "valkhof Festival'. At this AfD, the title is properly rendered as Valhof; the talk page title is Talk:Valkhof Festival.

--A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 23:27, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There are secondary sources. De Gelderlander for example is a respectable regional newspaper that covers the event, see here.Then there is this, in english. The article needs an update and a facelift, I´d say. Ruud Buitelaar (talk) 00:01, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep or draft; just notable enough, yet would severely benefit from a cleanup. It currently just constitutes some general uncited information and an ugly list of lineups. Maybe move to draft? 𝕎.𝔾.𝕁. ^{(chat | contribs)} 12:08, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Rewrite, rework, expand. It's still in existence and there is undoubtedly plenty of material to add, though I don't think it needs a complete lineup for every year. Articles for deletion isn't the place for cleanup, I don't speak Norwegian, and somebody who does will need to edit this but it's not appropriate to delete it. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 13:36, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I do speak ~~Norwegian~~ Dutch and I might look into how to improve this article this afternoon. Anyway agreed, no need for deletion. 𝕎.𝔾.𝕁. ^{(chat | contribs)} 15:09, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete unsuited for mainspace in its current state, and I can't find sufficient sources to satisfy WP:GNG. Of the two sources provided in this discussion - a regional newspaper isn't enough to satisfy WP:EVENTCRITERIA, the crack magazine article is a single paragraph, there is no in-depth coverage. If there is undoubtedly plenty of material to add then where are the sources? Polyamorph (talk) 14:36, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 20:29, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move to draft and require WP:AFC reviewer approval for restoration to mainspace. BD2412 T 21:52, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 10:02, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:22, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to International Four Days Marches Nijmegen. Way too detailed coverage for a local festival that is part of a larger series, the Vierdaagsefeesten. If someone wants to create an article on the "Vierdaagsefeesten", as a spinoff of International Four Days Marches Nijmegen, with Valkhof in it, that would be fair game. The current is not set up right and draft will not fix it. For now redirect to the parent of the Vierdaagsefeesten where both the Vierdaagsefeesten and Valkhof are mentioned. gidonb (talk) 07:31, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Stuartyeates, A. B., Ruud Buitelaar, Polyamorph, Bookworm857158367, BD2412, and User:W.G.J., can you all live with this solution? gidonb (talk)

Stuartyeates, A. B., Ruud Buitelaar, Polyamorph, Bookworm857158367, BD2412, and User:W.G.J., trying again! gidonb (talk) 15:09, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fine with me. I would add one of the images to the parent article and mention the Commons categoriesCategory:Vierdaagsefeesten - Wikimedia Commons and Category:Valkhof Festival - Wikimedia Commons Ruud Buitelaar (talk) 15:49, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We can do both (have a redirect and a draftspace or userspace draft). No objection to purely redirecting, however. BD2412 T 16:44, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fine with me. Stuartyeates (talk) 19:28, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per Gidonb - good idea. I support it. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 18:21, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.