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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Armbrust, B.Ed. ^{Let's talk}_{about my edits?} 17:38, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yue Huang[edit]

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A complete mess of an article — and, as a result of it being a complete mess, I can't discern any notability from therein. Delete. --Nlu (talk) 20:02, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

- N.B. and FWIW it's not mess anymore, it just needed some formatting. Herostratus (talk) 14:54, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Armbrust, B.Ed. ^{Let's talk}_{about my edits?} 13:15, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~ Weak Keep Not a lot to go on really. He's an artist and has exhibited at "China's National Art Gallery" which I also can't find much info on. They could be referring to National Art Museum of China. Either way the sources provided don't really establish notability and I can't find much online, nothing really to search on in Chinese either. Pol430 talk to me 18:49, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Driling down into the sources, it's apparent that "China's National Art Gallery" is the National Art Museum of China. Herostratus (talk) 14:14, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, I think. It's tough and I'm not sure about this. He has exhibited at the National Art Museum of China, albeit possibly at a sub-institution called the National Academy of Painting (not clear on this). And twice, although we only have refs for one. And these were full exhibitions under his name. According to this, Steven C. Rockefeller, Jr. who has all the taste that money can buy acquired one his pictures for the Rockefeller Family Collection, whatever I'm not sure what that is but I think it's a highly notable private collection which interacts with high-end museums and so forth. So he's not just some mook. WP:ARTIST is awfully strict, except for the vague first clause which allows for "The person is regarded as an important figure" whatever that means, whether he is regarded as an important figure I don't know but I don't find much evidence of it, or any real evidence of him on the web right off (Yue Huang is a common name I guess). So I dunno. But the National Art Museum of China is a really really important venue, #1 in China I think, and China is a huge country with a tremendous artistic history, so two exhibitions there devoted solely to a person is a probably a pretty big achievement. Herostratus (talk) 14:53, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Armbrust, B.Ed. ^{Let's talk}_{about my edits?} 17:10, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I'm with Herostratus here. We must not set the bar so high for artists who not part of the North American and European art circles that it is almost impossible for them to get in otherwise. Being recognised at a national level in China is a much bigger deal than in other places because of its sheer size. He seems to me to meet the spirit of WP:ARTIST. --AJHingston (talk) 18:38, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Meets the GNG based on the sources listed at the page. However, I have absolutely no understanding of Chinese, so I cannot verify. The Steve 06:47, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I've switched to weak keep per Herostratus' rationale. Huang is indeed a very common surname, his name in chinese is written 黄月 (according to the sources). I'm not sure if this is his real name or a professional name. Although the info about the Rockefeller purchase is good, the source is a blog which are not normally considered WP:RS. However, I'm willing to accept that his exhibitions at 中国国家画院 meet point one of WP:ARTIST. Pol430 talk to me 14:05, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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