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The result was Delete Assertions of inherited notability were not supported by reliable independent sources, as noted by those advocating deletion. Guy (Help!) 00:20, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yvan Cournoyer (model)

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Contested Prod. A living person biography that contains no independent reliable sources to confirm the notability of the subject. Searches for reliable sources about this person are challenging because of the well-known hockey player Yvan Cournoyer, but extensive searches as part of the BLP referencing drive have revealed no significant independent sources about this person using googlebooks, googlenews, and general google searches. The artlcle also has probable copyright issues as it is a very close paraphrase of the subject's own promotional material [1] Slp1 (talk) 01:18, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Article seems to be a direct paraphrase of above mentioned source...very little paraphrasing at that, more of a simple change from first to third person. Searches in order to establish notability have turned up nothing but primary sources from the subject himself, or his own comments...I do not doubt he is notable, but it cannot be established, at least by me or Slp1. I don't see many articles on models with good sourcing usually, unless they're very popular...so I doubt this will fair much better...but here's hoping. Judicatus (talk) 01:47, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Subject is notable as a model for his magazine covers and as the star of his 3-volume workout series (videos). Inniverse (talk) 03:49, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:42, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Did cover of notable magazines. Dream Focus 01:13, 30 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can you clarify what notable magazines these are? Yes, there are claims of covers, I can't find any evidence that Fitness YM [2], nor Playgirl Special: Hottest Bodies [3] nor "Playgirl Special: 50 Hottest Men in the World" [4] even actually exist. Gaydar magazine appears to be an Atlanta magazine that ceased publication after 13 months [5] which I suspect means it isn't notable, and the Exercise for Men Only magazine has zero hits for cournoyer on a search [6]. We need some independent evidence for the claims of these covers to actually establish notability. --Slp1 (talk) 01:45, 30 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The independent evidence of being a cover model are the hard-copies of the magazines themselves. Not every source will be found on the Internet. Inniverse (talk) 02:18, 30 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You are quite right. However, the magazines need to actually exist, and this is can generally be confirmed by online searching if they are notable. "Fitness YM" doesn't seem to exist as pointed out above, and the relevant PlayGirl specials are not listed in archives [7]; [8]. Gaydar magazine seems to have existed for a short period, and it does look Cournoyer was on the cover of Exercise for Men Only. I still don't think this meets the requirements of WP:ENTERTAINER and WP:BASIC criteria. --Slp1 (talk) 12:46, 30 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete because notability requires verifiable evidence, which is not forthcoming here. None of the claims of notability can be proven, thus it fails WP:N --Joshua Scott (LiberalFascist) 06:49, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Due to the lack of verifiable coverage. --Pink Bull 19:53, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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