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Category:Rangoon

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The result of the debate was delete and redirect. Timrollpickering 17:06, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Rangoon (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
I was given approval on Wikiproject Burma/Myanmar to do so, and there were no objections for relocating the articles. Because using "Rangoon/Yangon" may be controversial (because some users claim, as in the "Burma/Myanmar" case, is not neutral in point of view, and can be interpreted as having political leanings toward the democracy movement in Myanmar. --Hintha 00:41, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Tree of life

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The result of the debate was no consensus, and Category:Organisms has been created now anyway. Further discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life. the wub "?!" 15:49, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Tree of life to Category:Organisms
Part of the reason why I proposed "Organisms" is that it allows a better stream-lining of related categories, while it is less likely to be populated with other types of articles. In addition to organisms, there are many concepts related to phylogeny. Likewise, there are many organism categories where phylogeny is not the common factor (Category:Aquatic organisms, for example). As it stands, the only place for such non-evolutionary organism categories is the overpopulated supercategory "Biology", and this would still be the case if "Tree of life" were changed to "Phylogeny".--ragesoss 13:36, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You raise a valid point, but I think all the non-organism pages currently in Tree of life can easily find homes in existing categories (Phylogenetics or Evolution). As it is, this category is an unwieldy hybrid. Thanks for mentioning it on the WikiProject, which I totally forgot about.--ragesoss 16:16, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Life is much more inclusive that Organisms; it includes all kinds of philosophical, scientific, anthropological, sociological, and other kinds of of articles (Life extension, Biology, Artificial life). Organisms is neatly delimited in ways Life is not.--ragesoss 15:58, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do not rename I think Tree of Life is a valid category. It is about looking at the phylogenetic relationships of organisms. I think the name is clear and understandable for that sense. Any article that discusses the phylogentic relationship of living organiisms, or sub-group or living organisms, is a good fit for this category. -- Donald Albury 01:17, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Best Original Song Golden Globe winners

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The result of the debate was merge to Category:Best Original Song Golden Globe winners. Timrollpickering 16:08, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Best Original Song Golden Globe winners into Category:Best Original Song Golden Globe
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Category:The Art of Noise

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The result of the debate was rename. Timrollpickering 16:06, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:The Art of Noise to Category:Art of Noise
Propose renaming Category:The Art of Noise albums to Category:Art of Noise albums
Propose renaming Category:The Art of Noise songs to Category:Art of Noise songs
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Category:Maps of Oklahoma

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The result of the debate was merge. Timrollpickering 16:05, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Maps of Oklahoma into Category:Oklahoma maps
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Category:Maps of Texas

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The result of the debate was merge. Timrollpickering 16:03, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Maps of Texas into Category:Texas maps
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Golden Globe nominees

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The result of the debate was delete. Timrollpickering 17:01, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all as nominee categories. -- Prove It (talk) 17:37, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Reservoirs of Greece

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The result of the debate was speedy delete. the wub "?!" 13:11, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Reservoirs of Greece (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Empty category replaced by Category:Reservoirs in Greece. Skysmith 17:26, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:English laws

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The result of the debate was keep separate. Given the comments about clearer naming, I recommend a new listing to find an alternatvie name. Timrollpickering 20:30, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New listing at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 January 17#Category:English laws. Timrollpickering 21:00, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:English laws into Category:English law
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Category:Pages referenced by the press

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The result of the debate was rename. Timrollpickering 17:08, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Pages referenced by the press to Category:Wikipedia pages referenced by the press
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Category:Old Norse poems

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The result of the debate was delete. Timrollpickering 17:01, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Old Norse poems (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Empty category replaced by Category:Old Norse poetry. Skysmith 16:54, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Norse sagas

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The result of the debate was reverse merge, but keep Category:Sagas as parent since there is a list of sagas. --RobertGtalk 09:48, 19 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Norse sagas (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Empty category replaced by Category:Sagas. Skysmith 16:45, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Australian rock drummers

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The result of the debate was no consensus. Timrollpickering 21:03, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Australian rock drummers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete, Redundant against Category:Australian drummers. The category is empty. Orderinchaos78 15:50, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Why do you assume bad faith or systemic bias? Is it not possible that the nominator did not know about the other categories you listed as counter-examples? Which counter-examples I don't much see the need for either, but regardless their existence or non-existence has no bearing on whether this category should be kept. Otto4711 00:13, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I definitely don't assume bad faith—systemic bias is usually unintended and innocently done. I've got no quarrel with nom, who saw an empty category and, quite reasonably, nominated it for deletion. I'm just saying that this is part of a bigger categorization scheme being run by the Musician Wikiproject. That is the biggest argument for keeping (or deleting without prejudice if it is deleted). There's lots of room for expansion here, even though the category is currently empty, and the category is part of a well-established categorization scheme. Which is usually considered a good argument for keeping a category. This is not a randomly-created category, it's part of a larger plan. If you've got a problem with that plen, that should probably be discussed at the project page. But otherwise... --Xtifr tälk 12:34, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • I tend to agree that delete without prejudice is the best choice --- Safemariner 17:30, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Companies of Macao

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The result of the debate was speedy deleted. the wub "?!" 13:12, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Companies of Macao (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Empty category creator has already blanked. Skysmith 15:22, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Ethiopian visual arts

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The result of the debate was delete. Timrollpickering 17:02, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Ethiopian visual arts (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Empty category replaced by Category:Arts in Ethiopia. Skysmith 15:16, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Costin

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The result of the debate was delete. Timrollpickering 17:01, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Costin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Category out of context and blanked by the creator. Skysmith 15:09, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Golden Globe Award nominees

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The result of the debate was delete. Timrollpickering 17:01, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as nominee category. -- Prove It (talk) 14:53, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cities named for Kirov

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The result of the debate was delete. Timrollpickering 16:58, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Cities named for Kirov (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

subcategory of deleted category Cities named for Soviet leaders (unless somebody has a better idea, that is. Skysmith 14:48, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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UK MPs

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The result of the debate was "no" to en-dashes; no consensus on Grutness' rename proposal. In the light of BrownHairedGirl's statement that these categories were created for the convenience of cross-checking by contributors to the subject area, may I suggest that consideration be given to whether these categories should be treated as maintenance categories? They should perhaps be placed on the articles' talk pages, and not on the articles themselves? All the articles perhaps belong in Category:Members of the United Kingdom Parliament. --RobertGtalk 10:55, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Moved from speedy. No vote the wub "?!" 14:49, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to Psychonaut
  • The en-dash is not a standard character in the sense of being directly accessible from a keyboard. Yes, it's a standard in typography, but a category name is not a place for typographical exactitude (the isues here are different to those in body text)
  • To my surprise, &ndash; in categ names does appear to work. But requiring it greatly increases the chances of inaccurate entry of categ names, which leads to either redlinked categs or editors not using the categs when they appear redlinked. Omitting categ names is far more inconvenient to the reader than having a slightly shorter dash.
  • Most importantly, categorisation has to work with the software we have now, rather than the software we would like to have. I wish the software allowed category arithmetic – for searches like ((Category:Astronauts AND Category:Russian people AND Category:1804 deaths) AND (NOT Category:Rock drummers or Category:Vegetarians)) – but for now it doesn't, which is why CFD has a lot of discussion about manually-creating intersection categories. If the search engine is improved as you would like it to be, I will be delighted to support using ndashes, and we can have a mass conversion of existing categories … but for now it doesn't. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:46, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Using endashes makes it difficult for readers. We editors tend to forget that readers like to search. endashes just do not offer any advantage in this situation. The web is not print media and print media typographical conventions should not be blindly imported into the web. --- Safemariner 17:37, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Climate by state

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The result of the debate was speedy delete. Mairi 21:35, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Climate by state (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Empty category, creator requests deletion in the text. Skysmith 14:40, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Christmas customs by country

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The result of the debate was speedy delete by creator request. ×Meegs 09:31, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Christmas customs by country (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Empty category creator has blanked. Skysmith 14:38, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Catholic families

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The result of the debate was delete. Timrollpickering 16:56, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Catholic families (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Empty category creator apparently blanked almost immediately. Skysmith 14:35, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Brewpubs

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The result of the debate was delete. Timrollpickering 16:56, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Brewpubs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Empty category replaced by Category:Beer and breweries by region. Skysmith 14:27, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Bacteria organized by reaction to gram stain

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The result of the debate was delete. Timrollpickering 16:56, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Bacteria organized by reaction to gram stain (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Category no longer in use, replaced by Category:Bacteria organized by reaction to stain. Skysmith 14:13, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Aviation accidents and incidents in Czechosolvakia

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The result of the debate was already been deleted. Timrollpickering 16:56, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Aviation accidents and incidents in Czechosolvakia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Category with a typo, based on the edit comments creator would have wanted deletion . Skysmith 14:11, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Portugal-related projects

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The result of the debate was delete. Timrollpickering 16:56, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Portugal-related projects (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Seems to be a double of Category:WikiProject Portugal. Montchav 13:38, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Celebrity Fit Club

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The result of the debate was delete. Timrollpickering 16:50, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Celebrity Fit Club (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Category is obsolete as participants (US and UK) are listed at Category:Celebrity Fit Club participants --Starrycupz 13:03, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Amusement parks accidents

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The result of the debate was speedily deleted per nom. David Kernow (talk) 13:29, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Amusement parks accidents (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Emty category replaced by Category:Amusement park accidents. Skysmith 12:56, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Angelina songs

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The result of the debate was category already deleted. Timrollpickering 16:25, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Angelina songs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Category for songs of an apparently non-notable band that has no article in Wikipedia. Skysmith 12:53, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that this category should have been deleted, but rather renamed - see my comment above. Can someone who knows how to do this do so? Matthew 22:39, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Proedure: Create new category and edit all articles in old category and reassign them to new category. --- Safemariner 17:43, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Army groups by nationality

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The result of the debate was delete. Timrollpickering 16:24, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Army groups by nationality (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Empty category apparently replaced by Category:Armies. Skysmith 12:52, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Articles lacking sources from January

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The result of the debate was Speedy deleted per CSD G6, maintenance. --Cyde Weys 23:30, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Articles lacking sources from January (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Empty former maintenance category. Skysmith 12:50, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Articles lacking sources from January 09/07

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The result of the debate was Speedy deleted per CSD G6, maintenance. --Cyde Weys 23:30, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Articles lacking sources from January 09/07 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Empty former maintenance category. Skysmith 12:49, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Astram Line templates

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The result of the debate was speedy delete, creator blanking (were blanked on December 30) and category emptiness are both speedy deletion criteria. --RobertGtalk 13:03, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Astram Line logos (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Unused category creator has already blanked. Skysmith 12:46, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Astram Line pictures (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

See above. Skysmith 12:46, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Astram Line templates (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

See above. Skysmith 12:46, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Affiliates of Rover's Morning Glory

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The result of the debate was delete. Timrollpickering 16:17, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Affiliates of Rover's Morning Glory (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Depopulated and replaced category that is no longer needed. Skysmith 12:09, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Female models

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The result of the debate was keep. Timrollpickering 16:15, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Female models (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Please delete this category, which is pointless as all really famous models are female. Abberley2 10:48, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that, nor is it relevant - just two of the reasons why I didn't say that. CiaranG 12:04, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not sure CiaranG said Delete... Budgiekiller 18:56, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Oops, misreading on my part. I meant "per Abberley" but Cieran's sig just seems to stand out more. >Radiant< 12:59, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Just to reply, underpopulation doesn't mean it's not useful. It could simply mean that editors aren't aware the subcategories exist and/or noone has taken the time yet to fully populate them. Dugwiki 18:26, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Stalinists

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The result of this debate was speedy delete, recreation of deleted contents. — Nearly Headless Nick 09:42, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Stalinists (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

category previously deleted. see [1] and [2]. Soman 09:34, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Jewish-American businesspeople

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The result of the debate was delete. Timrollpickering 16:13, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Jewish-American businesspeople (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Relisting per DRV after my deletion following previous discussion was apparently "unethical". RobertGtalk 09:18, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Red pandas

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The result of the debate was delete. Timrollpickering 16:12, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Red pandas (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Famous red pandas (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This category and the subcategory Category:Famous red pandas are too much, there is a single species of red panda and one famous red panda; the should be deleted.Peta 04:01, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There was debate for a time about the panda, but it's generally accepted now that it is a bear. The Red Panda, despite its name, is not that closely related to the panda. Instead the red panda is something else that's not entirely defined by the sounds of it.--T. Anthony 10:34, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The references on the red panda's classification are poor and need revision. It may not belong with mustelids, either. Dr. Submillimeter 12:12, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm forgetting my mammals biology, it seems. Yeah, I remember now that the red panda wasn't really considered to be that close to the panda, so I guess it needs classified at a higher order, and maybe that's why the categories were created to begin with. I'm at this point not really certain what to do, and realize I don't know enough about red panda biology to make an informed opinion on the matter--and taxonomy of obscure animals is rather complex. KP Botany 14:37, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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New Zealand ethnicity categories

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The result of the debate was rename. Timrollpickering 16:00, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As per previous cfd. There are 24 categories for NZ ethnicity, and all but eight use an unhyphenated form. I'd like to bring the other eight into line:

Grutness...wha? 03:25, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree fully with Grutness to rename the categories but not with the merging. Merge to where is right. RIANZ 02:51, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Nobles of England

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The result of the debate was merge. Timrollpickering 15:56, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Category:Nobles of England into Category:Peers of the United Kingdom.
Merge Category:Nobles of France into Category:French nobility
Merge Category:Nobles into Category:Nobility
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