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Category:Air National Guard Units

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 21:24, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Air National Guard Units into Category:Military units and formations of the United States Air National Guard
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Subcategories of Category:Aviation accidents and incidents by country

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The result of the debate was no rename for main nom, and rename others for consistency. the wub "?!" 22:59, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Followup to this this CfD; rationale there was:

"Rename all to Category:Fooish aviation accidents and incidents. That way one set of categories will cover everything, for example Lockerbie would be in both the British and American categories and an accident at sea would be classified by the country of origin of the plane or the country of nationality of the majority of the passsengers, or by both if different. This should be explained in the header to each article."

David Kernow (talk) 22:54, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note to closing admin
If result below is oppose, recommend the categories from the prevous CfD renamed as follows for sake of consistency:

David Kernow (talk) 13:00, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Windsurfing locations

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 21:23, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Windsurfing locations (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
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Category:Fictional Australian television characters

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 21:22, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fictional Australian television characters (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete - underutilized and poorly named, only contains three articles, one of which is miscategorized (it's a program, not a character) and another which looks like it should be merged back into its show article. Category seems unnecessary. Otto4711 15:39, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional American television characters

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 21:21, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fictional American television characters (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete - waaaay overly broad in scope. Potentially tens of thousands of entries even discounting those who are otherwise categorized by individual shows. Would weakly support a rename and accompanying narrowing of focus so that it serves only as a parent cat to the individual Characters by Show categories. Otto4711 15:24, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This doesn't sound like "trivia", so I'm not sure what that comment means here. There is, though, the problem that the category is probably too difficult to maintain because of its size. Dugwiki 17:08, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I don't know what i was thinking when I cast this vote, I think I was voting on another cat. TheDJ (talkcontribsWikiProject Television) 02:26, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm unclear as to what you mean by a "holder" category. I'm not familiar with the use of the term on Wikipedia. If you mean that it's designed to hold sub-categories of TV show characters, then we already have Category:Television characters by series for that purpose. If this were renamed to something like "Television characters by American series" and made a subcat then the category would be useful. But a category for every individual television show character from the United Sates ever is spectacularly unuseful. Otto4711 15:26, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Computer and video game villains

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 21:21, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Computer and video game villains (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete - another of the POV "villains" categories, per precedent. Otto4711 14:57, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Mexican American Pro Quarterbacks

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 21:20, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, as Nationality / Ethnicity / Sport / Position intersection, or at least Rename to Category:Mexican American American football quarterbacks. -- Prove It (talk) 13:56, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional students

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The result of the debate was no consensus. the wub "?!" 21:25, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fictional students (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Strong delete per fictional characters by age and fictional schoolgirls rulings of delete. Almost very character has at sometime been a student.~ZytheTalk to me! 13:26, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To that end, I have appended this restriction to the category description. Dugwiki 17:16, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Suggestion: Category:Fictional scholars as that's a more specific, characterising set of students-as-occupation.~ZytheTalk to me! 20:27, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Good points. Two responses: (1) In practice, though, are people being put into the "students" category just because their backhistory suggests they went to school? Or are (real) editors only adding characters to the cat when there are signficant representations of the character as a student? In other words, are people misusing it, or are they applying sensible and common-sense criteria to including it? and (2) Regarding the suggestion, I think that scholars suggests academics, and wouldn't necessarily suggest, say, children, undergrads, and so on. (There are a few stray real-person scholars categories but mostly it's academics, teachers, students, and so on.) --lquilter 21:41, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The point is to exclude those because of the fictional schoolgirls, fictional babies and any other sort of "by age" category ruling! :) ~ZytheTalk to me! 22:33, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
To answer your questions, articles should only be categorized using information that is verifiable and notable within the article itself. I'm sure that if the characters on Charmed or Friends were real people, they would have gone to school. But the fact is that those characters are not notably mentioned as students within their article. So they should not be classified as such. Likewise, Batman's primary occupation is not nor has it ever been listed as "student" (far as I know). So using that criteria their is very little danger of a subjective dispute over whether or not a character belongs in this category. If the article notably calls them a "student" (or something very similar), then they fall under the category. If not, then they don't belong in the category. Straightforward and quite objective. Dugwiki 20:40, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, one more thing. This is a category to sort by occupation, not by age. It so happens that most students are young, but this category makes no specific declaration about a character's age. Since categorizing by occupation is accepted on Wiki, this is simply a natural part of that. Dugwiki 20:51, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Comic strips errata

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 21:18, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Comic strips errata (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete, obviously badly named category (errata are error lists, what was intended was probably "miscellany" or some such), I have already emptied it (only 4 wildly varying entries), the category serves no further purpose. Fram 13:17, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Banjo manufacturers

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The result of the debate was rename. the wub "?!" 21:16, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming

Category:Banjo manufacturers to Category:Banjo manufacturing companies
Category:Clarinet manufacturers to Category:Clarinet manufacturing companies
Category:Electronic organ builders to Category:Electronic organ manufacturing companies
Category:Guitar manufacturers to Category:Guitar manufacturing companies
Category:Cymbal manufacturers to Category:Cymbal manufacturing companies
Category:Percussion instrument manufacturers to Category:Percussion instrument manufacturing companies
Category:Piano manufacturers to Category:Piano manufacturing companies
Category:Synthesizer manufacturers to Category:Synthesizer manufacturing companies
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Category:Wikipedians who use MusicianDictionary.com

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The result of the debate was move discussion to WP:UCFD. --RobertGtalk 13:08, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wikipedians who use MusicianDictionary.com (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Category apparently exists solely to promote a non-notable wiki site. CiaranG 08:53, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Now you mention it, I'm not sure - it's not in the Category:Wikipedians hierarchy though. CiaranG 10:57, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional characters with the power to generate force fields

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 11:45, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fictional characters with the power to generate force fields (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete category for ambiguity and per precedents. We removed all kinds of energy manipulation categories for problems including lack of objective definition. No definition for "force field" is provided and is not likely to be provided. As the term originated in physics, it's the concept that a field of pure force (NOT ENERGY - Einstein said E=mc-squared, not F=mc-squared) could serve as an invisible barrier. Many of the categorized characters have never been said to generate force fields. Regardless of any definition, the sources have not used that term for some of these characters. They have been shown to generate a variety of repulsive powers. Telekinetic repulsion is not necessarily a force field. An electrical field is not a force field. This is a category that can only get worse because the term even when used in the sources does not have any standard definition. Doczilla 07:45, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Commonwealth regiments and corps

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 21:15, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Commonwealth regiments and corps (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete, per the same reasoning used in the deletion of Category:British Commonwealth Forces. The Commonwealth does not have any common military organization or structure, and the militaries of the constituent countries are entirely separate; this is as silly as creating a "Regiments of the UN" category and filling it with the regiments of every country that was ever a member of that body. Kirill Lokshin 05:15, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Central-Asian people

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The result of the debate was rename. the wub "?!" 21:13, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Niarchos

Category:Onassis

Category:Cantemireşti

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The result of the debate was rename all. the wub "?!" 21:11, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Niarchos to Category:Niarchos family
Propose renaming Category:Onassis to Category:Onassis family
Propose renaming Category:Cantemireşti to Category:Cantemireşti family
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Category:Rappers from Brooklyn

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The result of the debate was merge, though as Pascal points out these could be reasonable categories in future. the wub "?!" 21:10, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into Category:New York rappers, see also Category:Brooklyn Rappers. -- Prove It (talk) 02:07, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN)

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 11:50, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rename to Category:Keith Ellison, or Delete. -- Prove It (talk) 01:58, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I can't lay eyes on it at the moment, but there is a guideline for eponymous categories which suggests that only those people who are extremely notable should have them. The guideline cites the example of Category:Abraham Lincoln. Rep. Ellison is more than notable for an article or even a series of articles, but has not thus far acheived the extreme level of notability required to have his own category. Otto4711 20:25, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Arrested NFL football players

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 11:48, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, this kind of thing requires references, not suitable as a category. -- Prove It (talk) 01:18, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It's even worse than that. These are people who were arrested, which includes people who were wrongfully arrested and/or who were never charged with or convicted of breaking the law. Being arrested simply means the police at some point claimed you broke the law. Dugwiki 20:55, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry but an arrest is trivial in the biography of an NFL player. Not so trivial that it shouldn't be mentioned in the player's bio but trivial enough that we shouldn't give it undue weight with a specific category. For the same reason we don't have categories for NBA, MLB, NHL players that have been arrested or for actors who have been arrested. Pascal.Tesson 16:36, 28 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Delete the Biased Slander or Include the Rest of the NFL's Arrested Players!

This is an obvious attempt to slander the Cincinnati Bengals organization and nothing more. Otherwise, this list would include the numerous other NFL players from other NFL teams whom have been arrested, and not just the members of the Cincinnati Bengals whom have been arrested. As is, I don't know how it can be justified and why it should obviously be deleted. Thanks for listening, Frank Doughten

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Category:Fictional comic-relief characters

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The result of the debate was delete. the wub "?!" 11:47, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fictional comic-relief characters (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
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