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Category:Demand management

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The result of the discussion was: merge. the wub "?!" 11:03, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest merging Category:Demand management to Category:Electricity distribution
Nominator's rationale: Merge. Single entry category for Intermittent power source. Intermittent power sources are not restricted to renewable energy. While that may be the focus of the current article, it is better included in the more compete category. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:14, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Renewable energy power conditioning equipment

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Kbdank71 15:41, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest merging Category:Renewable energy power conditioning equipment to Category:Solar energy
Nominator's rationale: Merge. Very very weak ties to power conditioning. One article even includes land. In any case power conditioning is generally not unique to the method of generation. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:09, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Renewable energy in the third world

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Wizardman 00:07, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Renewable energy in the third world (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: We already have categories for renewable energy by country. And the only content here is also proposed for deletion. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:03, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Solar energy in the third world

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Wizardman 00:08, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Solar energy in the third world (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Single article and it is a device used everywhere, even in the US, so unless we are going to add the US the the third world countries, this category can go as OCAT. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:00, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Energy from Ocean and Water

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The result of the discussion was: rename per nom to fix caps problem, no consensus on merging with Category:Hydropower. Kbdank71 15:57, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Energy from Ocean and Water to Category:Energy from oceans and water
Nominator's rationale: Rename. I considered this as a speedy for the caps, but I was not sure of the need for the extra 's' so I brought it here. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:38, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hydropower will not be going anywhere. It is simply too notable and well know of a topic without any POV or OCAT issues. The question here is more about these other sources. I'm not suggesting you are proposing this but just making this clear. If there is a broader water power generation category then clearly hydropower would logically be a subcat. I would oppose a merge that eliminates Category:Hydropower. If we go in this direction, where would power generation from tides go? Vegaswikian (talk) 20:00, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Maybe in this case Category:Water energy?Beagel (talk) 14:17, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • OK, so all hydrogen based articles would be sub cated into Category:Water energy? After all, water is expected to be the major source of hydrogen by many. Another part of the problem here is that hydropower is used to generate both electrical power and mechanical force. Most of the new technologies are only used to generate electrical power. Category:Water energy may be the best solution for now as the parent for Category:Hydropower. So those those pushing this view are supporting a Rename of Category:Energy from Ocean and Water to Category:Water energy? Vegaswikian (talk) 20:00, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • OMG, Category:Water energy??? Don't make me shoot my computer! :) You do realize that Water energy sounds for all the world like those "free energy" scams that are always popping up? The last thing we want is people putting those articles into this category. This is gonna require some careful thought. Also, since you touched on hydrogen -- as I'm entirely certain you already know, VW (but for the possible benefit of other editors), water per se is not actually an energy source when it comes to hydrogen, since it requires the application of energy (electricity) to split those H20 molecules. So I'm not sure it would make sense to include those articles -- I guess it depends on the exact name we settle on. Cgingold (talk) 21:58, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Option A. Category:Energy from Ocean and Water is not needed.
  • Option B. Category:Energy from Ocean and Water is needed as a parent category.
  • Variant 3. Rename to Category:Energy from oceans and water per Vegaswikian.
  • Variant 4. Rename to Category:Energy from water per Occuli.
  • Variant 5. Rename to Category:Water energy per Beagel.
  • All I ask is that if we are still working on a consensus over need, that the proposed rename happen. The current name is just bad. I don't think there have been any objections to fixing the name while the broader discussion goes on. I think that all of these are valid questions about the need for the category and the structure but it may take a while for consensus to develop. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:39, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Sheikhs in the United Arab Emirates

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The result of the discussion was: rename all. the wub "?!" 11:04, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming the following seven (7) categories:
Nominator's rationale: In the United Arab Emirates (where both Arabic and English are widely used), the most common spelling is "sheikh." While "shaikh" and "sheikh" can be used alternatively in English, "shaikh" is not very common in the United Arab Emirates (UAE). The most common form of the word is with the "e": sheikh. I propose renaming the above categories to be consistent with the spelling in the UAE. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 21:59, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:RNVR Wartime Service

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The result of the discussion was: rename per Peterkingiron. Kbdank71 16:01, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest merging Category:RNVR Wartime Service to Category:Royal Navy personnel of World War II
Nominator's rationale: Merge, RNVR = Royal Navy Volunteer Reserve. Essentially a part of the Royal Navy. The category is covered by the Royal Navy category. Additionally the category is unclear as to content for the casual reader. Most people will not know what RNVR stands for and which war? Kernel Saunters (talk) 19:17, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nominator endorse rename - Lets get this renamed as per PeterKingiron. May re-nom in future for a merge though... Kernel Saunters (talk) 11:23, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support rename per Peterkingiron — Bellhalla (talk) 11:39, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Partition managers

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Kbdank71 16:05, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Partition managers to Category:Disk partitioning software
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Less ambiguous and matches Disk partitioning article. "Partition manager" is frequently used as part of a brand name, e.g. Paragon Partition Manager, Acronis Partition Manager. Ham Pastrami (talk) 14:47, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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US Navy ships by state

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Kbdank71 15:54, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest merging for each of the following 27 categories:
Propose deleting
  • Category:Ships of the United States Navy by place of construction
Nominator's rationale: Merge/Delete. Based on a discussion with the creator here and at WikiProject Ships here, I'm proposing an upmerge of the first 27 categories. The creator of those categories was not familiar with the "Ships built in Foo" style of categories. I'm also proposing a deletion of the final listed category which I created as a temporary umbrella category solely for the 27 "United States Navy ships built in Foo" categories. — Bellhalla (talk) 13:12, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As creator of almost all of these categories (United States Navy ships built in STATE) it appears more appropriate to place them in (Ships built in STATE). This does not cause any confusion since when a USS Ship is place in "built in state" it becomes obvious by its listing name that it is a USS ship. --

I request that they all be converted as I was the original creator except for (United States Navy ships built in Michigan).Wikited (talk) 13:34, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • However they are still listed in a USN ships category, just not by the state they were built in. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:42, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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People from US counties

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The result of the discussion was: rename all. the wub "?!" 11:06, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming each of the following six categories to match the other 43 in Category:American people by county.
Category:People from California by county to Category:People by county in California
Category:People from Michigan by county to Category:People by county in Michigan
Category:People from New Jersey by county to Category:People by county in New Jersey
Category:People from Pennsylvania by county to Category:People by county in Pennsylvania
Category:People from Virginia by county to Category:People by county in Virginia
Category:People from Washington by county to Category:People by county in Washington
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Category:American people by county

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. The conflict here is over adding some additional words in the target. Given the basic support for a rename from the existing name a rename to fix the baic issue has consensus. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:26, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:American people by county to Category:People by county in the United States
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Recent discussions moved all of the categories in Category:People by second-level administrative country subdivision and Category:People by first-level administrative country subdivision to the "People by foo in country" standard, rather than adjectival forms. This one was just recently catted into one of them, so, it was missed in the original go-round. Neier (talk) 09:18, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Pan-European advocacy groups

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The result of the discussion was: re-list to 2008-08-01 due to lack of participation. — CharlotteWebb 22:29, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Pan-European advocacy groups to Category:Advocacy groups at European level
Nominator's rationale: The advocacy groups listed in the "Pan-European advocacy groups" category have been set up by entities in >1 country to lobby the EU/EU institutions/EU&EEA. Their distinguishing characteristic is their intent in lobbying such bodies to gain advantage. So far, so good. The problem is the use of the "Pan-European" prefix in this context. It's a problem because Pan-European nationalism is an extremist political ideology advocating nationalism for a single-nation Europe. The use of the "Pan-European" prefix in this context is therefore misleading. The suffix "...at European level" (sometimes rendered as "...at a European level" or "...at an European level") is usually used for transnational bodies interacting with EU/EU institutions/EU&EEA (e.g. "parties at European level", "groups at European level", "foundations at European level", and so on). So unless anybody seriously thinks that the Europe a Nation and Quaker Council for European Affairs belong in the same category as each other, renaming "Category:Pan-European advocacy groups" to "Advocacy groups at European level" is probably a good idea. Anameofmyveryown (talk) 04:12, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Laotians of Fooian descent

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The result of the discussion was: rename. the wub "?!" 11:08, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming
Nominator's rationale: as per recent precedent Mayumashu (talk) 03:28, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Nigerian American sportspeople

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The result of the discussion was: double upmerge. Kbdank71 16:13, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest merging Category:Nigerian American sportspeople to Category:African American sportspeople, Category:Nigerian Americans and possibly Category:Sportspeople of Nigerian descent
Nominator's rationale: as per nomination and comments thereof below Mayumashu (talk) 03:05, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Obama is African American, is he not? He has acquired the following categories: various African American ones; Afro-Caucasian; Dutch descent; English descent; French descent; German descent; Irish descent; but not Kenyan descent. (The article establishes Kenyan descent but none of the others unless I have missed something.) Occuli (talk) 02:12, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:African American coaches, baseball players

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The result of the discussion was: rename Category:African American coaches to Category:African American sports coaches. the wub "?!" 11:12, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest merging
Nominator's rationale: so-called triple intersection of ethnicity, nationality and sport - convention is for categorizing by ethnicity end at type of occupation and not particular occupation (sportspeople and not particular sport) Mayumashu (talk) 03:00, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Cat:African American football players, tennis players, and a few others previously existed and then were deleted. I m not against having these pages as much as having them suggests that there should be a schema Cat:Ethnicity-national-sport, as in Category:Irish American baseball players. This is definitely in a very real sense a triple intersection of nationality - American, ethnicity - (Black) African, and sport. I agree however, that African-American does constitute an ethnicity in itself, and from that viewpoint (one I didn t consider), I can see how this constitutes a unique case. ('Chinese American' and 'Italian American' are more dubious considerations for being their own ethnicities and Scottish American and French American almost certainly not ethnicities.)
  • While we're at it, we may as well rename Category:African American coaches to Category:African American sports coaches to keep it consistent with Category:American sports coaches (which was similarly renamed a couple of months ago). Cgingold (talk) 02:32, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Deaths by type of illness

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The result of the discussion was: rename all. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:50, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming the following:

Nominator's rationale: this is follow-up to complete the rationalisation of category names under Category:Deaths by type of illness, as follow-up to CFD 17 July 2008. Again, these categories should be consistently named in the pattern Deaths from <illness>, which from the previous CFD seems to be consensus. Dl2000 (talk) 00:06, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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