copy of discussion from WT:CFD
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I know this cat's been around since 2007, but I just don't see the point of it. It's true that Richmond is ALL islands, and perhaps unusual in that regard, when you stop to think about it, at least in Canada.....but there's already Category:Islands of the Fraser River and there is no equivalent parallel to be had for classifying islands by municipality. It also sets a bad precedent, as (despite my opposition to using RD categories for landforms etc) someone is going to come along and create, e.g. Category:Islands of the Regional District of Nanaimo (those are already all in Category:Gulf Islands) RDs are technically municipalities, by law, but we don't think of them that way at all....the essential point is this is a lone-wolf category....and I really can't think of another "X landform of Y municipality" category - not any one that should survive anyway (there may be Category:Waterbodies of Burnaby or some such; but it's a different matter when the entire municipality is islands; it's not the same with scattered lakes through a mainland municipality; the Richmond category itself is an islands category. I think it's 19 or 28 major islands, including one (Annacis) which is shared with Delta) and another (Lulu) which is partly in New Wesminster.....and it may be that the in/of naming issue/guideline is in a special case here, because Richmond is made out of these islands - they are Richmond.....Skookum1 (talk) 04:38, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
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Since these views have not been contradicted and are in line with the mentioned authoritative sources, and since the words "genre" and "style" are in use for non-formal types of musical composition, there is a consensus for the (irrelevant) mentioned move as well as the (relevant) delete and, as I mentioned, the use of the word "forms" can only create confusion in this case. If User:Mangoe can provide authoritative sources for his personal view of things he may post them here and then may proceed to edit the page Musical form. Otherwise I'd like to remind him (once again) that WP:OR has no more place upon this page than elsewhere in Wikipedia and invite him to bring his opinion into line with a definition that has remained the consensus accepted by wikipedia music article editors for some time, for the simple reason that it is accepted by all notable authorities. A !vote based on WP:OR cannot negate or invalidate such a consensus and, therefore, should be disregarded here. Re his particular remarks, a symphony and a concerto are examples of Sonata form, while an Aria is an example of Ternary form. Concerto, symphony and aria are not forms in themselves. Thanks. Redheylin (talk) 06:40, 22 December 2010 (UTC)