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Big bands

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The result of the discussion was: Merge both to Category:Big bands. Timrollpickering (talk) 14:31, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose merging Category:Big bands, active to Category:Big bands
  • Propose renaming Category:Big bands, inactive to Category:Defunct big bands
Nominator's rationale: Standard categorisation is to assume those groups not in the defunct version of the category are not defunct. Tim! (talk) 09:13, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, Merge. I don't have strong conviction on this. — Eurodog (talk) 00:26, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Responding to your question, "Why do some organizations have a defunct category and some do not?," from a policy perspective, I know not. But from a practical perspective, when lists are long, sub-categorizations can be useful. With respect to big bands, I would categorize in other ways as well (i.e., Sweet bands such as Lawrence Welk & Guy Lombardo; vs. Swing bands such as Buddy Rich, Glenn Miller, GRP). The usefulness of having a defunct (or inactive) category for big bands is high for some people. From my view, it’s less about the inactive bands and more about the active ones. The "active" category pulls currently relevant bands out of the Dead Sea. It’s frustrating to see the "Jazz at Lincoln Center Orchestra" get lost in a sea of inactive/defunct big bands.
The "We don't have a need" comment (above), I presume, represents a subset that does not include me. Nonetheless, as I said earlier, I do not have strong conviction on this. — Eurodog (talk) 14:50, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Any example of where consensus has changed? Because it seems a pretty extensive category tree to me. (Even larger when one considers its parent Category:Former entities.) Tim! (talk) 22:10, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Virtually all recent discussions involving "current" "former" "modern" etc. end in deletion or merging on the grounds of we don't categorise that way. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:07, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Can you provide a link please? Tim! (talk) 06:41, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks, very helpful :). The position seems to be we have defunct organizations, but not current organizations. When it comes to people, there is no division at all between current and former careers. Tim! (talk) 20:29, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Gambling addicts

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The result of the discussion was: Delete per WP:BLP issues. - jc37 21:25, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Gambling addicts to Category:to be determined by consensus
Nominator's rationale: Many of the subjects populating the category, while having notable gambling habits mentioned in their respective articles, are not called "gambling addicts" in sources. —  AjaxSmack  05:24, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not really, as most do not self-indentify with this illness... It should be kept as is without changing anything. Regards.--Kürbis (✔) 07:45, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think the point of citing those previous discussions is that we don't categorize people with addictions unless they themselves have gone public with it. So it's either "self-identifying as" or delete. __meco (talk) 09:35, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Really? Anyway, that was just a rhetorical question. But I do question that assertion. __meco (talk) 19:57, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Clay, Alabama

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The result of the discussion was: Merge all but withdrawn Arab. Timrollpickering (talk) 14:30, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
* Propose merging Category:People from Arab, Alabama to Category:People from Cullman County, Alabama
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT - No need for these small communities to be broken out from the people-by-county categories, as they each have only one Wikinotable person and little chance of there being more. The Bushranger One ping only 04:02, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Indiana State Highway Terminii

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Contents have been moved to Commons, leaving the category empty; WP:BURO. The Bushranger One ping only 06:39, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: These are simply images of Indiana State Highway termini (note the spelling error); there's no good reason that these must be separated from Category:Images of Indiana. At any rate, they're all free images (and presumably all other images of Indiana state highway termini on Wikipedia would also be), so there's no good reason that these need to be categorised on Wikipedia at all, because they should be at Commons. Finally, note that all images in the category have been here for several years; if we move them to Commons, the category likely will be empty permanently. Nyttend (talk) 02:13, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Caspian, Michigan

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The result of the discussion was: merge. The Bushranger One ping only 01:38, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. Category has just one entry ...William 00:34, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Wakefield, Michigan

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The result of the discussion was: merge. The Bushranger One ping only 01:38, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT Category has only 1 entry. ...William 00:31, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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