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Category:Roman Catholicism in the world

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The result of the discussion was: merge and distribute to subcategories as needed.--Mike Selinker (talk) 03:12, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge. Unclear inclusion criteria. Tim! (talk) 22:09, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Knitwitted

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:22, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Is it proper for a user to create a category to categorize user pages? User has added all the page in the category to the category. Gtwfan52 (talk) 20:36, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Place names of Irish origin in the United States

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The result of the discussion was: delete. I did see and take into account the keeps, but they are outnumbered by the deletes who bring up logical reasons and argue that WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a reason to keep a specific item. Also, I've been closing a lot of the other place name discussions similar to this one and they have shown a much stronger consensus to delete these as trivial ways to categorize. So I feel that this closure is in line with a broader consensus as well. delldot ∇. 07:18, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Rochester Rhinos

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The result of the discussion was: merge. The Bushranger One ping only 19:34, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge. To match parent article Rochester Rhinos. – Michael (talk) 19:29, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ayah

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Ayat. delldot ∇. 07:22, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Ayah to Category:Ayahs
Nominator's rationale: Rename. We should use the plural, but I have not taken this to the Speedy page as perhaps we should use the Arabic plural Category:Ayat (see article Ayah, about verses of the Qur'an). – Fayenatic London 19:09, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Suras

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The result of the discussion was: rename and merge. The Bushranger One ping only 19:36, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Sura to Category:Suras
  • Propose merging Category:Sura 3 to the above
  • Propose merging Category:Sura 5 to the above
Nominator's rationale: Rename. The category should use the plural, and "suras" is used consistently in the article sura (about chapters of the Qur'an. – Fayenatic London 18:56, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Merge in two sub-sub-cats that only contain 1 page on the relevant sura. (The remaining sub-cats of Category:Suras by number are different as they contain pages about ayat (verses) within the sura.) – Fayenatic London 19:04, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Templates relating to Anne Frank

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:17, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Two-entry category.--Mike Selinker (talk) 17:15, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Chronology categories navigational boxes

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:17, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Almost nothing in here is a navbox. I also suggest removing the plural as is usual with template categories.-- Mike Selinker (talk) 17:12, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:UML templates

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:17, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Single entry category.-- Mike Selinker (talk) 17:03, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Turkish expatriate basketballers

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename C2C. Timrollpickering (talk) 13:01, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: renaming basketballers to basketball players to agree with usage in nearly every other category on basketball players. Waacstats (talk) 09:50, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Classical albums by date

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The result of the discussion was: Keep parent and decade categories. Keep 1990 and all subsequent years. Merge all years up to 1989 into their decade categories. I felt that there was too much opposition to declare a consensus to delete all articles, but only one person objected to this option. Since she was arguing for ease of finding classical albums, hopefully she will be happy with this option too. delldot ∇. 07:56, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. One of the concerns here is categorizing album articles by the intersection of year and genre. Albums are already to be categorized by year within the article and most artists have album categories that will have a genre category (typically of the "[genre] albums by Fooian artists" variety). Maybe we want to do this for classical albums only? Because this seems like this could get out of hand if this method of categorization spreads to other genres. For example, something like Live at the Royal Albert Hall (Adele video) by Adele could end being categorized in not only Category:2011 live albums, Category:2011 video albums, but also Category:2011 pop albums and Category:2011 soul albums, not to mention the standard categorization by genre in Category:Adele (singer) albums. I guess the album articles within these categories would have to be upmerged to the appropriate Category:Albums by year subcat and a subcat of Category:Classical albums if not already in one. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 09:44, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose - in a mild way ...inevitably as I created the category following Category:2011 Christmas albums, Category:2011 compilation albums‎, Category:2011 EPs‎, Category:2011 live albums‎, Category:2011 remix albums‎, Category:2011 video albums‎, Category:2011 debut albums‎, Category:2011 soundtracks‎. I felt that "classical" was as distinct and notably different as these very overlappy categories. I suppose I could happily undo it. More than anything I wanted to see what clearly what classical coverage we have, and the answer is "not much" - a mixtape by a five-minute of famer gets an article but the first opera recording, the first symphony recording, the first LP don't (or didn't, I added them too). Should I delete those articles as well? :) In ictu oculi (talk) 10:20, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
And PS Live at the Royal Albert Hall (Adele video) is not a classical album and isn't ever going to collect a classical tag in a million years :). The RAH is host to many pop concerts. Tosca (Sabata recording) is a classical album. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:26, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Never said it was. The question is should the genre "classical" be treated as a special case under this categorization scheme or should we start categorizing every album by an intersection of year and genre (whether be jazz, country, soul, rock, etc.). --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 10:33, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
@Koavf. Maybe it's that I'm used to the classical section being walled off into separate rooms in record shops, or having separate "classical" categories on Amazon. To me the point is that there are 100,000s of pop albums where any genre is arbitrary, classical is a different animal. But if this is expanded to delete Category:2011 Christmas albums, Category:2011 compilation albums‎, Category:2011 EPs‎, Category:2011 live albums‎, Category:2011 remix albums‎, Category:2011 video albums‎, Category:2011 debut albums‎, Category:2011 soundtracks‎ as well I would have less of a case wouldn't I? If that is the proposal then withdraw this and delete consistently. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:49, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Why does Category:2011 debut albums‎ need to be diffused? Or outside albums Category:2011 horror films? In ictu oculi (talk) 21:16, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I would support Peterkingiron's proposal, I am not at all convinced that classical is simply a genre in above. In ictu oculi (talk) 03:46, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Dinosaur museums

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Natural history museums.--Mike Selinker (talk) 03:13, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. I guess the question here is this defining and it is objective and not subjective? I guess a museum can be included if it has a single dinosaur. But is that defining? I'm open to a rename and cleanup if someone can figure out a name that makes inclusion objective and not subjective while being defining. Vegaswikian (talk) 03:28, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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