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Category:Robber barons

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The result of the discussion was: DELETE. For the record, I absolutely discount entirely John Pack Lambert's contribution. -Splash - tk 19:31, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Because Robber baron is a derogatory "title of disdain", The Robber barons categorization confers its association on the subject categorized. It isn't much different than calling the person a crook; or their gains, ill-gotten.—John Cline (talk) 23:42, 5 January 2014 (UTC) —John Cline (talk) 23:42, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Island rivers of Oceania

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The result of the discussion was: REDIRECT to Category:River islands of Oceania. -Splash - tk 19:32, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename. This category is for islands in rivers, not rivers on islands. All other categories within this tree are in the form "River islands of...". Grutness...wha? 23:32, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Baptists in the United States

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The result of the discussion was: RENAME to Category:Baptist Christianity in the United States. -Splash - tk 21:03, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Baptists in the United States to Category:Baptist movement in the United States
Nominator's rationale: This is constantly polluted with biographical articles which should be in Category:Baptists from the United States. This category is part of a tree about more generalized topics, not individual biographies. As long as it's named this way, individual biographical articles will be added ad infinitum. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:28, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Further comment: As it happens, most of the biographical articles in this category are (redundantly) in both this category and Category:Baptists from the United States, but don't belong in either category. These are articles about politicians and other people notable for something other than their religious activities; in most cases their religious affiliation isn't so much as mentioned in the article (although it sometimes is listed in an infobox). Merely being affiliated with a particular nomination some time in one's life if not generally considered a defining characteristic for purposes of categorization, so most of these people don't belong in any "Baptist" category. --Orlady (talk) 01:36, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Note I have just removed 18 biographical articles from this category. In 16 cases they were either already in the sub-Category:Baptists from the United States, and the other two were moved to that sub-cat. If anyone reckons that any of these pages don't belong in Category:Baptists from the United States, feel free to remove them. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:18, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That's in addition to the 42 articles that I removed from the category a little while earlier. I checked each article to see if there was any indication that they belonged in a "Baptist" category; I left a few of them in either "Baptists from..." or "Baptist ministers from..." --Orlady (talk) 02:21, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding the proposed "Baptist movement" nomenclature: It's not currently in use in Wikipedia, AFAICT. The main article for the category is entitled Baptists in the United States and is related to the article Baptists and Template:Baptist. --Orlady (talk) 01:36, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Would "baptist churches" or "baptist christianity" work? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:47, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
"Baptist churches" wouldn't work for this parent category. "Baptist Christianity" might work, but standard protocol says we shouldn't change the category name unless and until the names of the articles Baptists and Baptists in the United States are changed. --Orlady (talk) 02:18, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Standard protocol is regularly set aside when a category name is ambiguous. This is clearly one of those cases. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:04, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@BrownHairedGirl: "Baptist churches" could mean the physical structures, the local congregations (like First Baptist Church of Missoula), or an individual body (like the Southern Baptist Convention). That would be more ambiguous and prone to miscategorization. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:01, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Also, Category:Baptist churches in the United States already exists as a subcategory of this one. The "churches" category is used for local churches/congregations. (That's why I said it wouldn't work.) --Orlady (talk) 15:35, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Koavf: fair point. So how about my other suggestion: "Baptist Christianity"? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:40, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@BrownHairedGirl: It certainly works. I don't know that I have a strong preference. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:42, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Smith/Carington family

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Smith and Carington family. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:08, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Smith/Carington family to Category:Carington and Smith family
Nominator's rationale: WP:SLASH. If this can be intelligibly written without a slash, then it's preferable for technical reasons. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:18, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Naples, Maine

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The result of the discussion was: MERGE as nominator'. -Splash - tk 19:49, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. Has only 3 entries ...William 18:25, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Magnates, moguls, and tycoons of the world

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The result of the discussion was: DELETE. -Splash - tk 19:34, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: * Ill-defined category; we already have categories with objective criteria, e.g. Category:Billionaires.
  • If you are looking for an article about someone who was a "magnate of the aviation industry c. 1945", but can't remember their name then you would probably remember their nationality and hence could find their article in a category such as Category:American aviation businesspeople. DexDor (talk) 21:00, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that would have worked; thank you.—John Cline (talk) 23:55, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I hope it holds as something a bit more than pitiful; but you are right, I missed the discussion. Anyway; the consensus is pretty clear and I don't object to seeing this closed speedily.—John Cline (talk) 23:55, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:County Commissioners in York County, Maine

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The result of the discussion was: KEEP. -Splash - tk 19:40, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. Has only one entry. County Commissioners are usually not notable also. ...William 14:48, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Commissioners of Crete

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The result of the discussion was: RENAME to Category:High Commissioners of Crete. -Splash - tk 19:40, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The two holders of the post were "High Commissioners", not simply "Commissioners". Constantine ✍ 11:06, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No, in modern usage, it is always used to translate "High Commissioner", for instance the UNHCR is Ύπατη Αρμοστεία του ΟΗΕ για τους Πρόσφυγες, and the Cypriot High Commission to Australia is likewise an Υπάτη Αρμοστεία. Ditto for the Greek High Commissioners in Smyrna and Allied-occupied Constantinople after WWI. Constantine ✍ 19:59, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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San Francisco, California sports players

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The result of the discussion was: MERGE and DELETE as per nomination. -Splash - tk 21:23, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting all and upmerging back to Category:Sportspeople from San Francisco, California and the appropriate sport category for California (example - Category:Boxers from California). In the past we have intentionally not created city-specific, sport-specific categories (see past CfDs for Portland, Oregon and Chicago, Illinois) with the thought that this would be over-categorization. Splitting these now would set the precedent for sport-specific, city-specific athletes that I would expect would be played out to the end (imagine "Archers from Canton, Ohio"). Additionally, in some sports (like basketball), the State category serves as the citizenship/occupation category (example - "Basketball players from New York" is a sub-category of "American basketball players"). To split further away from the parent category here would be more difficult for editors from outside the U.S. Please read the linked CfDs for Portland and Chicago for more detail on past precedent and reasons behind it. Rikster2 (talk) 01:50, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and upmerge per nomination Tewapack (talk) 16:44, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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