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Category:Muscat, Oman

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 15:39, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Subject to rename this category into Muscat article as the primary topic after the RM discussion of 3 August 2017. This should include sub-categories. ApprenticeFan work 07:35, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Black Falcon (talk) 22:45, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fahrenheit 451

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The result of the discussion was: soft delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 15:41, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only navigates three articles other the the main one. Upmerge where appropriate (e.g. main article can go directly into Category:Dystopian novels). ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:41, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Black Falcon (talk) 22:23, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Phthisiatrists

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The result of the discussion was: keep. ℯxplicit 05:26, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: A rather small and obsolete medical speciality. Lacks a defining article and no obvious reason for a seperate category. Rathfelder (talk) 21:13, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Black Falcon (talk) 21:54, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Perhaps, but the category is not just about the 21st century. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:41, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Roman līmitēs by country

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The result of the discussion was: merge. ℯxplicit 05:26, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not counting Category:Saxon Shore forts and Category:Forts of the Antonine Wall‎ (which are part of other category schemes), the 'Roman Limes' category tree contains only 29 articles in total. Therefore, this is a narrow intersection that is not helpful for navigation. (Note: Category:Roman Limes is nominated for renaming below.) -- Black Falcon (talk) 18:13, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Roman Limes

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The result of the discussion was:  Relisted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 December 4#Category:Roman Limes. ℯxplicit 05:26, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Roman Limes to Category:Roman limites or Category:Roman līmitēs (and category redirect the other)
Nominator's rationale: According to Limes and wikt:limes#Latin, the plural form of "līmes" is "līmitēs". (Category creator notified using Template:Cfd-notify) -- Black Falcon (talk) 18:12, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
speedy discussion
  • Category:Roman Limes to Category:Roman limes - C2A Laurel Lodged (talk) 11:05, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Category:Roman Limes in Ukraine to Category:Roman limes in Ukraine - C2A Laurel Lodged (talk) 11:01, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Category:Roman Limes in Tunisia to Category:Roman limes in Tunisia over re-direct per C2A Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:58, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Category:Roman Limes in Syria to Category:Roman limes in Syria - C2A Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:54, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Category:Roman Limes in Scotland to Category:Roman limes in Scotland - C2A Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:52, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Category:Roman Limes in Slovakia to Category:Roman limes in Slovakia - C2A Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:49, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Category:Roman Limes in Serbia to Category:Roman limes in Serbia - C2A Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:47, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Category:Roman Limes in Romania to Category:Roman limes in Romania - C2A Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:45, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Category:Roman Limes in Netherlands to Category:Roman limes in the Netherlands - C2A Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:43, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Category:Roman Limes in Libya to Category:Roman limes in Libya - C2A Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:41, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Category:Roman Limes in Germany to Category:Roman limes in Germany – C2A Laurel Lodged (talk) 18:57, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Category:Roman Limes in France to Category:Roman limes in France – C2A Laurel Lodged (talk) 18:55, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Category:Roman Limes in England to Category:Roman limes in England – C2A Laurel Lodged (talk) 18:53, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      Oppose this set. @Laurel Lodged: C2D per what? Roman Limes and Roman limes both redirect to Limes, so that doesn't help. The head category and most sibling categories use Roman Limes, so these nominations go against C2C. – Fayenatic London 07:40, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      Reply Was a typo - should be C2A to correct a typo. Limes should not be capitalised. Laurel Lodged (talk) 09:15, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      @Laurel Lodged and Fayenatic london: We may also rename them to Category:Limes, Category:Limes in Ukraine etc. per WP:C2D, how do you feel about that? Marcocapelle (talk) 12:39, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      I would prefer that these speedies go ahead. Later, I think that the entire scheme of Roman Walls, Roman Limes and Roman Fortified Roads needs to be re-visited. To that end, I've started a discussion at Talk:Limes#Walls_vs_Limes. Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:42, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      I don't see any point having a speedy renaming, particularly one that goes against C2C, while a wider discussion is under way. Also, "Limes" is singular; the categories should use a plural noun, and the choice deserves a full discussion e.g. "Roman Limites", "Roman limites", "Roman frontiers", "Roman fortified boundaries".
      In reply to Marcocapelle's suggestion to drop "Roman", that is not desirable because there are medieval Limites e.g. Limes Saxoniae. – Fayenatic London 13:16, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      Agree with Fayenatic london, why bother now while a discussion is still ongoing. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:03, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      Support with Roman limites, not limes (with or without Roman), and no with a a capital L. The capitalization of Limes in these constructions is wrong (and would be wrong as Limites). Dropping the Roman would be grossly ambiguous with limes, especially in category space where we use plurals; about 99.9% of readers would think they were about fruit if they were in the form "Limes in Tunisia". The plural rule means use limites, anyway. We could use just "Limites in Tunisia", etc., but it's not likely to be meaningful to the average reader and may just look like a typo. Roman limites will tell all but the bonehead that it's a Latin word. I've looked at the RfC opened at Talk:Limes and it's just a bunch of rambling with no indication of going toward a consensus. If we need to change it later to Roman frontiers or whatever, then fine, we can do so. No reason to have incorrectly singular and capitalize categories in the interim.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ<  17:06, 5 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      I think that makes sense. Pinging User:Fayenatic london, User:Laurel Lodged and User:Marcocapelle for thoughts. -- Black Falcon (talk) 00:37, 6 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      It's a sensible interim measure. Laurel Lodged (talk) 09:33, 6 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      • I'm not convinced that it's in the right direction. I would prefer to see a full discussion. It seems to me that this may be a case of over-categorisation by WP:SHAREDNAME. Why do we need a hierarchy using a foreign word, when we already have Category:Roman frontiers and Category:Roman fortifications? – Fayenatic London 09:58, 6 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
        I have no objection to that objection. Given the amount of discussion above, this should just go to a full discussion instead of languishing in the holding tank.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ<  08:04, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      I started a discussion to rename the top-level category here and to upmerge the subcategories here. -- Black Falcon (talk) 18:15, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Imprisonment and detention of women

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The result of the discussion was: keep by weight of argument (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 15:51, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category includes a main article of the same title, and a list of TV shows. The TV shows can be listed in the main article. Don't think that we need a full category for this. Thanks! PolarYukon (talk) 16:01, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Lawyers of Commonwealth of Nations member countries in the Caribbean

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The result of the discussion was:  Relisted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 December 4#Category:Lawyers of Commonwealth of Nations member countries in the Caribbean. ℯxplicit 05:26, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting Category:Lawyers of Commonwealth of Nations member countries in the Caribbean (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: For the life of me, I can't fathom a reason why this would represent a separate class of topic from the rest of the Caribbean and/or from Commonwealth of Nations member countries outside of the Caribbean. Are they some unique class of lawyer, radically unlike other lawyers, somehow? Bearcat (talk) 05:57, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Mauritania

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The result of the discussion was: merge and keep a redirect (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 15:54, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I'm not at all clear on exactly what the distinction is supposed to be here between being "Mauritanian" and being "from Mauritania". Bearcat (talk) 05:45, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Boston Patriots broadcasters

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The result of the discussion was: relisted, see here. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:44, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary duplicate of Category:New England Patriots broadcasters. Hirolovesswords (talk) 00:12, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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