- Oppose all speedy location rename. I don't like the the extra comma. 2001:569:74EF:BD00:C5DB:BC3E:974F:E670 (talk) 02:56, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Haha, WP:IDONTLIKEIT is not a valid reason. HandsomeFella (talk) 08:46, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- It's obvious that this IP's objection doesn't count. If no valid objections arise, maybe we can process this as unopposed after the regular 48 hours. HandsomeFella (talk) 13:14, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- No, do not process it, take it for a full CFD. 2001:569:74EF:BD00:58D7:8DE3:356D:407D (talk) 20:52, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- If you have a valid reason to object this renaming proposal, by all means don't hold back until there's a CFD. Now that you've had two chances to explain, you might miss out on that opportunity. Not liking it does not count as a valid reason. HandsomeFella (talk) 21:13, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- The valid reason the is "adding a second comma for it's location would ruin the sentence" for the "by occupation" sentence. Could you still take that proposal to the full CFD? Also User:Bearcat will decide to support speedy or oppose speedy rename for the proposal on the extra comma. 2001:569:74EF:BD00:45E0:D560:2C77:BA57 (talk) 01:38, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Have you read WP:Copyedit#Punctuation? And yes, I saw that you WP:CANVASSed Bearcat. HandsomeFella (talk) 06:06, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't want to read the Copyedit for punctuation guidelines for "by occupation" categories. You don't need the extra comma for the "by occupation" categories. Adding the city-province next to the comma and "by occupation" categories would ruin the sentence. 2001:569:74EF:BD00:45E0:D560:2C77:BA57 (talk) 07:03, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- No, it wouldn't. On the contrary, without the comma, the "by occupation" part would seem to be related to [State] only:
- 1) People from Tulsa
- 2) Oklahoma by occupation
- Considering this goes against the manual of style, and the most other such categories include the comma (see the parent categories), don't hold your breath. HandsomeFella (talk) 07:12, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- No, that's not true, don't you see all categories for the "by occupation" title would have been used as "Category:People from Tulsa, Oklahoma by occupation". the comma only used "once" between the city and province or state. The "by occupations" stays perfect without the second comma next to the by occupation. 2001:569:74EF:BD00:45E0:D560:2C77:BA57 (talk) 07:24, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- See Category:American people by city and occupation. Most two-part names are followed by the comma. Those that aren't are included in this discussion. And that's still contravening WP:Copyedit#Punctuation. HandsomeFella (talk) 08:26, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm going to postulate that that "by the contrary" fails WP:COMMONSENSE. Any reasonable person won't read it as two seperate things. I'm not going to object simply on the grounds of I know a losing battle when I see one, but seriously this perincious picayuneness on "but *grammar*", especially in categories, is just another thing for people to point and laugh at Wikipedia about. - The Bushranger One ping only 08:30, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually, I have seen a trend in media – online and on paper – towards adding the second comma. So I guess people will have more to laugh at. HandsomeFella (talk) 10:46, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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