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Category:Czech Lion Awards winners (people)

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The result of the discussion was:  Relisted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 July 27#Category:Czech Lion Awards winners (people). ℯxplicit 03:56, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Czech Lion Awards winners (people) to Category:Recipients of the Czech Lion Award
Nominator's rationale: Match the style of other categories, for instance Category:Recipients of the Distinguished Service Order and all other award categories that I know of. Catrìona (talk) 23:25, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Toy companies

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The result of the discussion was: keep. ℯxplicit 03:56, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There is huge overlap. Most of the model makers also make toys. Many of the toy makers make models. The distinction between the two is unhelpful. Rathfelder (talk) 21:05, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Philosophy and thinking infobox templates

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 04:59, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: SMALLCAT. Only one member.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  20:03, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Giant coal excavators

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 05:03, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Giant coal excavators to Category:Giant excavators
Nominator's rationale: These machines are not only used in the coal industry. Rathfelder (talk) 16:41, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Athletics clubs in the United States

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The result of the discussion was:  Relisted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 July 27#Category:Athletics clubs in the United States. ℯxplicit 03:56, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: It is unclear how one can distinguish an "athletics club" from a general "sports club". This naming also presents ambiguity over whether the category relates to the sport of athletics, which is already covered at Category:Track and field clubs in the United States. SFB 15:11, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Underground mines in the Isle of Man

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The result of the discussion was: Not merged. Timrollpickering 08:13, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: All the Manx mines are underground Rathfelder (talk) 13:00, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Underground mines by country

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The result of the discussion was: Not merged. Timrollpickering 08:14, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unneccessary. The categories for individual countries - where there is categorisation by surface/underground is useful. This intermediate category isnt. Rathfelder (talk) 09:46, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Many mines are both surface and underground, and change over time. The distinction between a quarry and a surface mine is also a bit vague. "A quarry is the same thing as an open-pit mine from which minerals are extracted." Category:Quarries Only a minority of articles about mines are characterised as surface or underground, and I doubt if the categorisation is useful to many readers. Rathfelder (talk) 16:43, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is definitely a fair question, but in any case we can't merge the nominated category without also merging all country categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:02, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Definitely an issue about the subcats. But if this were approved, couldn't we just assume that the tree merges all the way down. Procedurally, someone would need to tag them all, but if we have duplicate categories for a short duration of both "mines" and "underground mines" cats for every country while awaiting their merger isn't an untenable situation. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:52, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not in this case, because nominator has explicitly stated in the nomination below that the distinction is relevant in some countries. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:13, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • In short, to answer your 3 questions - Yes, No, and Yes. And there is a third categorization, Solution mining, which depending on your definition of what a mine is, could be either of the first two, or different. Most who are involved or follow the industry would consider them different. A "quarry" is typically a mine for the extraction of industrial minerals like Stone, Marble, Silica Sand, etc. Significantly different methods are employed than would be used at a conventional open-pit mine. Turgan Talk 23:45, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Underground mines

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The result of the discussion was: Not merged. Timrollpickering 08:15, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Superfluous category. There is a category Category:Surface mines‎ to distinguish the minority of mines which are not underground. Rathfelder (talk) 09:40, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's disappointing when long-term contributors such as Oculi resort to abuse rather than discussing the merits of proposals. In reality many mines and mining companies operate both underground and on the surface, and very few of the articles are characterised in this way. I prefer to look at the content of the articles rather than coming with presuppositions about the usual formation of category trees. It doesnt appear that this distinction is terribly important in the mining industry. Rathfelder (talk) 15:27, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not planning to nominate all the country subcategories. In some countries the surface/underground distinction is useful. I think they should be considered individually. Rathfelder (talk) 20:57, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • If that is the case, it certainly does not make sense to merge the parent category, i.e. oppose. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:45, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Steel Mills in Sindh

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The result of the discussion was:  Relisted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 July 27#Category:Steel Mills in Sindh. ℯxplicit 03:56, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: unnecessary intermediate category. Only one sub cat Rathfelder (talk) 07:13, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "If you think something needs to be upmerged, make sure that all parent categories are included in the nomination as merge targets (or make sure you have a good reason not to include all of the parents)." This advice can be found, not made long ago and buried in some obscure place far from Rathfelder's gaze, but on their own talk page in April 2018. I would be grateful if Rathfelder could commit either to heeding such advice or avoiding cfd and category space altogether. Oculi (talk) 14:27, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • We havent broken down steel companies to any other regions. Even in the USA they are not broken down into states. There doesnt seem to be any good reason for this particular subdivision. The only entry is for companies in Karachi. The articles both seem to be about companies, not about the mills themselves, as is the case with many of the articles about steel mills.. Rathfelder (talk) 14:48, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Papal States (until 1500)

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The result of the discussion was: No consensus. Timrollpickering 12:43, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
more nominated categories
  • Propose merging Category:1370s in the Papal States to Category:14th century in the Papal States
  • Propose merging Category:1420s in the Papal States to Category:15th century in the Papal States
  • Propose merging Category:1460s in the Papal States to Category:1460s in Italy and Category:15th century in the Papal States
  • Propose merging Category:1470s in the Papal States to Category:1470s in Italy and Category:15th century in the Papal States
  • Propose merging Category:1480s in the Papal States to Category:15th century in the Papal States
  • Propose merging Category:1490s in the Papal States to Category:15th century in the Papal States
  • Propose deleting Category:1050s establishments in the Papal States
  • Propose deleting Category:1050s in the Papal States
  • Propose deleting Category:1059 in the Papal States
  • Propose deleting Category:1150s in the Papal States
  • Propose deleting Category:1190s establishments in the Papal States
  • Propose deleting Category:1190s in the Papal States
  • Propose deleting Category:1197 in the Papal States
  • Propose deleting Category:1230s in the Papal States
  • Propose deleting Category:1290s in the Papal States
  • Propose deleting Category:1300s establishments in the Papal States
  • Propose deleting Category:1300s in the Papal States
  • Propose deleting Category:1309 in the Papal States
  • Propose deleting Category:Years of the 11th century in the Papal States
  • Propose deleting Category:Years of the 12th century in the Papal States
  • Propose deleting Category:Years of the 13th century in the Papal States
  • Propose deleting Category:Years of the 14th century in the Papal States
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, hardly any of the nominated categories contains more than 1 article. The second part of the listed categories, which are nominated for deletion, are container categories which naturally become empty after the proposed mergers have been implemented. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:10, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Dimadick, well at least there were Papal States in the Middle Ages; there was certainly no Italy (modern Republic of Italy). When you think of Italy - you consider borders of modern Italian Republic, but there was no such a thing until 19th century. If you like - you can propose rename of all Italy year categories at the Middle Ages period into Italian Peninsula year categories.GreyShark (dibra) 12:58, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • The nomination certainly does not intend to get rid of Papal States categories, the only intention is to create more robust categories for the Papal States, i.e. at century level. At the same time the articles should remain somewhere in the year trees as well. My preference would have been to have "year in Europe" as the second merge target, but that proposal didn't make it (see earlier link) so that is why I am defaulting to "year in Italy" as the second merge target. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:18, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • The nomination certainly does not intend to get rid of Papal States categories, the only intention is to create more robust categories for the Papal States, i.e. at century level, at least in the Middle Ages when there is little content. I suppose every polity, large or small, can keep its own tree, but the size of the tree will vary with the size and duration of the country. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:08, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Cancelled projects and events by country‎

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The result of the discussion was: No consensus. Timrollpickering 12:45, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: split projects from events, then upmerge in the projects tree or in the events tree as a natural consequence of this earlier discussion. The amount of content per country is too small to create separate cancelled projects categories per country and separate cancelled events categories per country, therefore the split is now combined with a merge. Some countries currently do not have any cancelled event, others do not have any cancelled project, in that case an immediate merge is proposed. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:02, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Both subcategories of Category:Cancelled projects and events in the Soviet Union belong in the projects tree, that is why a simple merge has been proposed. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:06, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • In that case, assuming who ever is splitting those that are splits knows what he or she is doing, I'm fine with the proposal. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:48, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • If there is enough content, it is certainly a good idea to insert an extra layer for Cancelled projects under Proposals. That is however not yet the case in Sweden. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:28, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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