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20th-century sportsmen

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Category:Sports Competitor

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:29, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Duplicate of Category:Sports competitors with improper capitalization. As far as I could tell, there's no speedy deletion criterion for duplicate categories, but if there is, I'd love to know about it. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 16:13, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Commons users who use Canon products

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:30, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per, for example, WP:UCFD/I#Wikipedians by technology. If kept, rename to "Wikipedians who use Canon products", since this is Wikipedia, not Commons. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:50, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Wikipedian Canadian football players

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:30, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:USERCAT for lacking any discernible collaborative function - contains only one user who has been inactive since 2012. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:50, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Wikipedians interested in the military history

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The result of the discussion was: speedy merge WP:C2A. – Fayenatic London 14:50, 23 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Obvious duplicates. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:50, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Bayesian Wikipedians

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Wikipedians interested in Bayesian methods. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:33, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Very unclear what this category is supposed to be categorizing. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:50, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • A userbox is fine, of course, with categories I am not so sure we need to make it this black and white. There may lots of people in Category:Wikipedian statisticians who sufficiently know about Bayesian inference without being a self-declared Bayesian. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:46, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Sports events in Mexico

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:35, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: One event in each category. And only one month in each year diffused. Merge to MONTH YYYY sports events in North America. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:27, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Resonant trans-Neptunian objects

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Category:Supporters' Shield

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:36, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer containing just one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:58, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Major League Soccer most valuable player awards

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:37, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer, it only contains two redirects and a subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:56, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Major League Soccer have many types of MVP Awards such as Regular Season MVP award, MLS Cup MVP award, MLS All-Star Game MVP award. And there is a sub category - category:Major League Soccer MVPs about Regular Season MVP award winners
I don't think that this is redundant category layer. In my opinion, Category:Major League Soccer most valuable player awards is useful category for users who search for various MLS MVP information.

If there is no category:Major League Soccer most valuable player awards, Users have to check out information respectively about Regular Season MVP, MLS Cup MVP award, MLS All-Star Game MVP award

In conclusion, category:Major League Soccer most valuable player awards have good classification function.

Footwiks (talk) 10:07, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Readers will never reach this category page because there is not even a single article linking to it. Categorization is not about having "good classification function" but about easily finding related articles. Categorization is not a purpose in itself, it is a tool to navigate between related articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:15, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Major League Soccer MVPs

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:38, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:OCAWARD, award winners categories are routinely deleted with very few exceptions (e.g. Nobel prize winners is an exception). Marcocapelle (talk) 09:54, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't know in detail about regulation of award winners category.
By the way, currently there are many sports award winners category in wikipedia.
For example
Category:National Football League Most Valuable Player Award winners
Category:Big Ten Athlete of the Year winners
and so on.
Only deletion of MLS MVP award winners category. This is unfair. I think that MLS MVP award winners are notable. So this category can become exception.
I also think that we need much discussion and consensus about Sports award winners category. Footwiks (talk) 10:48, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Mass nominations almost never work because there is always the chance of one or two exceptions. In this case, someone may argue that one of these awards does have the same status as the Nobel prize. But of course if you wish to start a fresh discussion about all these categories simultaneously, you can do so. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:03, 23 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Nigerian disability table tennis players

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:45, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Nigerian disability table tennis players to Category:Nigerian disabled table tennis players
Nominator's rationale: Renaming all the disability sportspeople to disabled sportspeople . Mason (talk) 03:00, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Marcocapelle is referring to Category:Nigerian disability sportspeople
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  • That is exactly the intention, the target has only just been renamed. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:48, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:11th-century historians from the Fatimid Caliphate

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:45, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with one subcategory and one article. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:11, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Al-Andalus exiles

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:46, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, the category is based on a modern concept that does not do justice to the reality of the time. Many medieval Muslim scholars travelled through different Muslim "countries" and/or settled in a different "country" than they grew up in. (Country in quotation marks because it were merely areas that happened to be ruled by certain dynasties. Some of these countries did not even have a name, only the dynasty had a name. Moreover Al-Andalus wasn't a country in the modern sense.) They stayed within the Muslim world though. A true exile would have been if they would settle in the Christian world but that is not the case here. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:44, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Motion capture in video games

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:47, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: An overly broad category. Nearly all big-budget video games since the 2010s used motion capture. No longer a defining characteristic. OceanHok (talk) 11:38, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • The question is if sources usually mention whether facial expressions are recorded for performance capture as a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:59, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Major League Soccer MVP award winners

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Category:Persons educated at Kavanagh College

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:48, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The school has now changed its name.Yelsorc (talk) 08:43, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, of course..Yelsorc (talk) 19:07, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:National LGBTQ Wall of Honor

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:49, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Seems to be a non-defining honor. (Note: per Wikipedia rules, to have a separate category, it must be defining for the majority of recipients, meaning it is a central aspect according to reliable sources that would be worthy of mention in the lead of the article). I checked five recipients at random: Gilbert Baker (artist), Leslie Feinberg, Christopher Lee (activist), Marsha P. Johnson, and Virginia Uribe. The award was mentioned in the article, with boilerplate text that seemed to have been copied and pasted, but did not seem to be prominently covered in reliable sources or the lead of the article sufficient to consider it defining for any of them. The category is already listified at National LGBTQ Wall of Honor; it should be deleted as non-defining. (t · c) buidhe 06:26, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
£97<¥£ like your issue is with the quality of the articles, in which case AFD the articles you think have the types of issues you mention or perhaps even with the choices the Stonewall National Monument voters made. But this category is no different than one for baseball members who were inducted into Cooperstown or musicians into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Our place, in this case, is to verify that the organization is legit and the people who are added to the category are honorees. So, if your issue is with the quality of the articles there, it is not the organization’s fault or the category’s. Ask for better sources if you are not satisfied. In fact, look for sources yourself so you know they meet your standards. But again, that is an issue with the article. Not the category. The honoree has been verified. That is all that matters. BostonMensa (talk) 07:13, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Saskatchewan United Party

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:49, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Eponymous category for a political party without the volume of spinoff content needed to justify one. This is a new minor party that was registered just three weeks ago, so the only articles to file here at this time are the eponym and the party's leader -- this would be fine if there was other stuff to file here, like several other MLAs and leadership conventions, but is not necessary for just two articles. Bearcat (talk) 05:32, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:East Timor–Kosovo relations

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The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 21:58, 23 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Eponymous category solely for the eponym, with no other potential contents readily locatable. As always for X-Y relations categories, this would be fine if there were several articles to file here, but is not needed for just one article. Bearcat (talk) 05:18, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Isle of Man women Twenty20 International cricketers

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:50, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting Category:Isle of Man women Twenty20 International cricketers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Eponymous category for a list. This would be fine if the list actually contained any blue links that could actually be filed here to populate the category, but it doesn't -- it's an entirely unlinked list and a spotcheck of random names within it failed to turn up anybody who has an article that got overlooked. Obviously no prejudice against recreation if and when five or six of the people actually have articles, but it aids navigation not a whit to have a category just to hold the list alone. Bearcat (talk) 05:06, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Vehicles used by the United States Government

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:51, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization by association. Happening to be used in a government fleet is not a defining characteristic of the vehicle. Bearcat (talk) 04:56, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Episodes of Star Trek in which the ship is taken over

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:51, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting Category:Episodes of Star Trek in which the ship is taken over (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: WP:OCAT by plot point. Wikipedia does not have any scheme of "Episodes of [Show] in which [thing] happens" for this to be a part of. Bearcat (talk) 04:54, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Founded by La Saints Union

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:52, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Single-entry WP:SMALLCAT with a bad name not consistent with any Wikipedia naming convention. Bearcat (talk) 04:49, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Ohio Brass Company employees

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:52, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:OCAT by employer, very analogous to a WP:PERFCAT violation. Bearcat (talk) 04:38, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Events in 2023

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:53, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Wikipedia does not have any "Events in YYYY" scheme for this to be a part of. Categories like this would be too massive and poorly defined to be useful, so events by year are split up more specifically -- e.g. Category:2023 events by month, Category:2023 awards, etc. -- rather than just being lumped together as "Events in YYYY", so there's no purpose in retaining this if we don't have "Events in YYYY" categories for any year preceding 2023. Bearcat (talk) 04:33, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Existing cat tree is sensible, and this outlier is not needed. If we want to park all the "YYYY events by month" in "YYYY events" supercategories, we should do so consistently. I would oppose such a move, which would add branches to the tree for no benefit. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 04:43, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Kishore Kumar Mohanty family

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:53, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT for a member of an Indian state legislature (not an officer of the legislature, either, but just a regular legislator of no particularly exalted status) and his wife. Something like this would be fine if there were five or six or ten articles to file together, but it's not needed for just two people. Bearcat (talk) 04:23, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Institutions run by Mata Amritanandamayi Math

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Category:Amrita Hospital

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:55, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Two-entry WP:SMALLCAT, not aiding navigation. Bearcat (talk) 03:58, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People educated at Ysgol Calon Cymru

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Category:Women in Entertainment Power 100

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:57, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization on the basis of inclusion in an outside organization's proprietary (and copyrighted) ranking list, which is not a defining characteristic. For added bonus, this is an annual list, within which some people may drop off the list entirely and other new people may be added to it each year, meaning it's a fluctuating characteristic -- and our article about the list only deigns to document the top 10 (not the entire Top 100) for just five years in a previous decade, meaning that inclusion in the list isn't even properly verified in the first place. Bearcat (talk) 03:29, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - I am the category creator. I do not agree to this rationale, as any past recipient can be in this category. I have already added a few people. So past recipient do not need to drop off. It does not have any "YEAR" associated with it. I cannot speak to the copyright issue, but I do not think we are violating any copyright issues here. If that was the case, there are hundreds of other categories in violation that use company copyrighted names. You may want to check that dozens of award categories exist already without any copyright issues. Examples:
David di Donatello Career Award winners
Ivor Novello Award winners
Best Supporting Actor Golden Globe (film) winners
Grammy Award winners
Golden Globe Award-winning musicians
Brit Award winners
Threevian (talk) 03:44, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Lists which rank people in numerical order are not the same thing, and do not work the same way, as awards. An award isn't copyrighted; a listicle is. Bearcat (talk) 04:18, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:GreenPAC Endorsed Candidate

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:58, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization by association. The commonality here is that the people in the category were all endorsed by an organization that is not itself a political party, which is not a defining characteristic of these people. Bearcat (talk) 03:24, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It defines nobody in no "category", because endorsements from outside groups are things done to the candidates rather than by the candidates. Bearcat (talk) 03:59, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • GreenPac may well be more relevant in the public debate but the question here is what defines each individual person and that is a different question. The fact that GreenPac is generally relevant is reflected in it having its own article. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:56, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Do we need a category for every group of candidates that was ever endorsed by any activist group on any issue? No. Bearcat (talk) 14:57, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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