- Category:Queen's Counsel to Category:King's Counsel – C2D to match King's Counsel. (I am not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.) SSSB (talk) 07:37, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @SSSB: The problem is it'll be inaccurate for people who have been appointed QCs who are now deceased. For those who are currently alive, they're now KCs but for those who are deceased, the category will be wrong. That said, we've got people who were appointed as KCs who died before 1952 who are in the QC category, so ideally the category should probably be "King's (or Queen's) Counsel", or... I don't know. Maybe worth going to WP:CFD for an actual discussion... (Also, please ping back, I'm not watching this page.) —Tom Morris (talk) 12:30, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @Tom Morris: I'd argue this distinction doesn't matter, as King's Counsel and Queen's Counsel are synonymous. Alternatively, we can categorise individuals by the title they last held?(I am not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.) SSSB (talk) 13:30, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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- Oppose @SSSB: The main article was boldly moved without an RM just yesterday (and was tagged as a minor change at that) so it's hard to see this falling under WP:C2D. I wouldn't hold up a non-controversial rename given the historical moment except the vast majority of biography articles in this tree were appointed by a queen which is worth discussing. - RevelationDirect (talk) 19:11, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- The KCs of the 17th and 18th centuries are currently in Category:Queen's Counsel 1597–1800. I think it makes sense to rename the whole hierarchy to King's Counsel, with redirects from Queen's, but for future reference it might be best to have a full discussion on record. The dated categories should probably also be split/renamed "17th-century King's Counsel" etc, which may not a Speedy matter. – Fayenatic London 10:29, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose the speedy change. I already lodged a nomination to change from Queen's to King's but then withdrew. The reason is that there are many, many QC's who died before the Queen and so retain their title. I don't think we should change their category. Rather, a new King's Counsel category should be created. It is an enormous job but hey, we are addressing the last seventy years of Counsel, and given the likelihood of Charles > William > George ascension, the new King's Counsel is likely to be needed for generations to come. May as well start now, while maintaining the QC's.
- I am strongly open to any alternative though. Because I am aware that having two Counsel categories may be redundant and clunky given that really, its the same category but under a different name. MaxnaCarta (talk) 12:30, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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