- Esenthel_Engine (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)
Article was removed supposedly by not having enough external sources, I disagree, there are plenty of information regarding Esenthel Engine in the internet.
Being mentioned in the Nvidia PhysX Info website - http://physxinfo.com/news/1120/esenthel-engine-updated-with-physx-sdk-2-8-3/ the leading news provider about the most popular physics software Nvidia PhysX among game engines, http://physxinfo.com/news/3170/weeklytube-issue-37-physx-video-overview/
Listed in the Khronos Group consumer list - http://www.khronos.org/consumers/product_details/esenthel-engine/ , http://www.khronos.org/consumers/category/C58/
Noted in iDevGames the most popular Mac OS X & iPhone game developer community since 1998
http://www.idevgames.com/news/esenthel-engine-now-supports-mac
OpenGL.org
http://www.opengl.org/news/esenthel-engine-supports-opengl-on-mac/
Besides the engine is pretty popular among game engine related portals, such as Mod DB - http://www.moddb.com/engines/esenthel-engine
DevMaster.net - At this date ranked as being #10 most popular commercial game engine in the Devmaster Engine Database - http://www.devmaster.net/engines/ , here - http://www.devmaster.net/engines/engine_details.php?id=600
I even found some interview about Esenthel on 3D-Test news portal - http://www.3d-test.com/index.php , here - http://www.3d-test.com/interviews/Esenthel_1.htm
And also there are more and more games based on Esenthel, 2 MMORPG's - http://jtdd2.moliyo.com/ and http://hzm.moliyo.com/ , and other - http://shivergames.com/lucius/?page=videos Silverbyte (talk) 19:43, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The deletion was based on lack of proper sourcing. To meet the general notability guideline you need multiple independant reliable sources covering it in more than a trivial way. Most of what you've listed above are trivial mentions they are just news announcements etc. Being used in games isn't non-trivial coverage. The best one you seem to have in that lot is the 3d-text interview, being an interview it isn't ideal since it lacks the independance part of the criteria. You need more sources (at least one) covering the engine in a non-trivial way. --82.7.40.7 (talk) 09:23, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Endorse. AfD could have been closed no other way. Including the nomination there were four delete !votes all clearly grounded in our verifiability policy and notability guideline, and no keep !votes. Nothing is stopping the recreation of this article if it is recreated with verifiable, reliable sources that show notability. Given the concerns expressed at the AfD I would advice anyone thinking of recreating the article to first create a userspace draft (possibly be asking for userfication of the deleted article) and then seek the advice of an experienced editor, before moving back to main space, so as to avoid G4 speedy deletion. Dpmuk (talk) 10:41, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Does that http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Games/Esenthel.shtml count ? Silverbyte (talk) 23:29, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- No, that site accepts user submissions and republishes them. I could easily create my own software, submit it there and have it republished (and a load of other similar sites as well), that isn't the world taking note (notability) --82.7.40.7 (talk) 07:18, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- As provided in the instructions above, "This process should not be used simply because you disagree with a deletion debate's outcome for reasons previously presented". Endorse deletion. Stifle (talk) 08:06, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Endorse Trivial tangential coverage does not a wikipedia article sustain. Spartaz Humbug! 16:49, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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