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The article was promoted by Gog the Mild via FACBot (talk) 8 September 2021 [1].

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History of Burnley F.C.[edit]

Nominator(s): WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:51, 27 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This article is about the history of English football team Burnley F.C., who have seen the absolute highs and lows. I've created this article a year ago and it has passed the GA process. All comments will be appreciated. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:51, 27 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Image review[edit]

• File:Burnley FC 1890.png no US PD rationale given
  • Added WA8MTWAYC (talk) 08:55, 27 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • US copyright is based on the publication date, and no publication before 1926 is listed. The photo wasn't 120 years old in 1996 so I don't think ((PD-1996)) applies either. (t · c) buidhe 18:26, 27 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
      • Okay, removed the file as I can't find the exact publication date/details. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 18:58, 27 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• File:The King George V presents the FA Cup 1914.jpg no publication at least 70 years ago is given, so neither of the license tags apply
  • Removed the image WA8MTWAYC (talk) 08:55, 27 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Otherwise image licensing looks OK (t · c) buidhe 08:15, 27 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Thanks for looking, Buidhe. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 08:55, 27 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Support from TRM[edit]

Lead

• "of rugby team" which rugby?
  • All sources practically say "rugby football" or simply "rugby" (apparently the current union and league variants only came into existence long after 1882). WA8MTWAYC (talk) 14:57, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Link professional.
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 14:57, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• I may have asked this before, but did going professional really "As a result, the club was able to enter the FA Cup"?
  • Amended. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 14:57, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "League; they were" just "and" instead of the semi-colon and they.
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 14:57, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• " a then English record" awkward, perhaps, "setting an English record".
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 14:57, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "top tier of English football" could link to English football league system.
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 14:57, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "with 80,000 inhabitants, the town of Burnley became the smallest to have an English first tier champion" wasn't that the case back in 1920/21 then?
  • Added a footnote. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 14:57, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "non-league" should be "non-League".
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 14:57, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Early years (1882–1912)

• "A large majority voted in favour of the proposed change of sport" third time you've said change of sport/code in as many sentences. Maybe just "favour of the proposal".
  • Amended. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 14:57, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "The club secretary George..." long sentence, suggest split. And no need to link general English term committee.
  • Done, done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 14:57, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "arrivals with association football experience" any detail on where they arrived from? Was it a "Lancashire-only" thing or wider?
  • No exact information about their previous clubs/careers is given. It's very likely that they were local lads, as the directors advertised their trial matches only in the local newspaper. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 14:57, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "The team played the" which team?
  • Clarified. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 14:57, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "blue and white" hyphenate.
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 14:57, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• I assume the "first recorded match" was a friendly?
  • Kind of; it was a trial match. Added the wikilink. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 14:57, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "February but lost 6–3 against" -> "February, losing 6–3 against"
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 14:57, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "outright—defeating Burnley Ramblers in the final by a scoreline of 2–1[2]—and their reserve" I would split this. "outright, defeating Burnley Ramblers in the final by a scoreline of 2–1. Burnley's reserve..."
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 14:57, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "many Scottish players" easter egg, if they were truly Scottish internationals then say that rather than just imply they were Scottish nationals.
  • Removed the wikilink. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 14:57, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "regarded as the best footballers" by whom?
  • Added. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 14:57, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "the BFA redundant" so it subsequently ceased to exist?
  • Reworded. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 14:57, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "a club record defeat." at the time or ever?
  • Ever, reworded. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 14:57, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "world's first league competition" in any sport?
  • Reworded. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 14:57, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "12 founder members and one of the six" twelve for MOS (comparable figures).
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 14:57, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "was re-elected" this probably needs explanation as to why a club who finished ninth needed "re-election".
  • Added a footnote. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 14:57, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• " scored a hat-trick but was never called up again" what was the match result?
  • Added. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 16:36, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "history after they defeated" when, not after.
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 16:36, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "Burnley decided to follow other" -> Burnley followed other
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 16:36, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "two of 30" thirty.
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 16:36, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Could link goalkeeper.
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 16:36, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "resulted in Hillman's suspension" his
  • Reworded. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 16:36, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "Alarming performances" in what sense? According to whom?
  • Reworded. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 16:36, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Starter for you. More to come. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 12:59, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Glory and decline (1912–1946)

• I'm not mad keen on the editorial headings (e.g. "Glory and decline")...
  • Reworded. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "became the first ... became the first" repetitive.
  • Rewritten. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• We have an article on Association football during World War I which might be linkable?
  • Linked. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "30 match" hyphenate.
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "Team photograph..." that's a fragment so no full stop.
  • Removed. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "front of over 50,000 supporters. The attendance was later confirmed as 54,775, still" -> "front of 54,775 supporters, still"
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "only 19th the next season," don't need 19th in the pipe.
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "In 1929–30, " or "In".
  • Removed "In" from the pipe. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "on goal average." loathe as I am to suggest this, I think this needs a footnote explanation.
  • Bwoah, done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "The side's form remained" Burnley's...
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "started to slightly improve again" remove "again".
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "uninspiring" this is POV.
  • Replaced. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "him the Football League's youngest ever centre-forward. " still? If not, who beat him? Jason Dozzell??!
  • Clarified. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Progressive and golden era (1946–1976)

• "war league football" shouldn't that be League?
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "the "Iron Curtain"; the team conceded" -> "the "Iron Curtain", conceding"
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "capable of competing" speculative.
  • Removed. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "were particularly based " why "particularly"?
  • Most of Burnley's scouts were located there. I think the club had less competition scouting for talent in those areas. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "out by Chelsea after four replays" is that some kind of record?!
  • Strangely enough it isn't! [2]
• "scored a record four goals " which record?
  • I think it might be the English record, and maybe, maybe even a (tied) world record (playing your first ever senior match and scoring four in a competitive match - just wow). Clarified it by adding "club". WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "despite missing a" who?
  • Added. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "£8,000 in 1950, while Elder cost the club £5,000 " I think previously you've inflated all of these kinds of figures.
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Total Football appears to be capitalised.
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "town of Burnley became the smallest to have an English first-tier champion" see earlier comment.
  • Added a footnote in both sentences. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "the first modern international American football tournament" two things (a) don't like "American football" being in there and (b) what happened?
  • I hope "American soccer" will do the trick. Added info. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "played in European competition for the first time" you should say why, our readers may not make the link between winning an FA Cup and qualifying for Europe.
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "and shared the FA Charity Shield" it's odd for me to read this one last when (traditionally) it's played before the other competitions you've mentioned have even started. And because "sharing" a cup is so unusual, I'd footnote that.
  • Relocated it. Added a footnote. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "newcomers Ipswich Town" well that needs context, they were newly promoted as opposed to "newcomers" I think.
  • Reworded it to "newly promoted". WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "the club's Willie Irvine as the league's" feels like it's missing an "ending" or "finishing" or something.
  • Added "ending". WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "Burnley reached the quarter-finals of the 1966–67 Inter-Cities Fairs" how did they qualify for that cup?
  • Do you think it should be included in the text? I think it will be rather cluttery. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • I think our readers would like to know why they suddenly played in this competition. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 19:29, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
      • Okay, done and expanded. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 21:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "and the League Cup semi-final in 1968–69." this feels awkwardly tagged on, I would make it another sentence and perhaps mention who knocked them out?
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "Adamson in February 1970. Adamson hailed" repetitive.
  • Reworded. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "had often been in the top half of the league table" is that verifiable from the reference? Or do you mean "had often finished in the top half"?
  • It should be verifiable from the ref (16; Rundle) as it lists the finishing position and the amount of teams that participated per season. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • What I mean is that you can be anywhere in the table during the season. The ref is just for finishing place. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 19:29, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
      • I see; reworded. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 21:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "were invited to play" this is a rarity so probably needs a footnote as to why it wasn't the traditional teams involved.
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:53, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Decline and near oblivion (1976–1987)

• "Three nondescript seasons" POV.
  • Reworded. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 21:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "In 42 league games, Burnley won none of the first 16 or the last 16 matches." Feels a bit factoid.
  • Expanded it a bit. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 21:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "relegation zone … the relegation zone" repetitive.
  • Reworded. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 21:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "Graph showing Burnley’s…" fragment, no full stop.
  • Removed. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 21:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "League Cup semi-final" singular? I think all other mentions of "-final" have been plural.
  • Reworded. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 21:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "young talents" POV
  • Removed. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 21:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "finished 21st in each" probably needs context, i.e. how many clubs, was that deep relegation or just the last place to get demoted?
  • Removed. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 21:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "only 12 times in 46 league" -> "only 12 of 46 league…"
*"into the season's last match" league match.
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 21:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• " 15,000[k] " the footnote is useful but in the prose the notability of the fact isn’t even noted.
  • Expanded the prose. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 21:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "Burnley had a new local rival team in Colne Dynamoes, who…" this is kind of introduced without a context, timeframe?
  • Added. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 21:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Recovery (1987–2009)

• First sentence says "In 1988, …" compare that to the section heading…
  • Oh Jesus; amended. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 21:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "Burnley became champions the" reads a little odd, like it was passive, maybe "Burnley won the league" or something.
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 21:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "in the final" you should link the final here, not later.
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 21:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "followed after one season,[16] but the club" it says "but", is that what you mean? The relegation and the grant weren’t connected.
  • Reworded; Burnley qualified for the grant because they were in the second tier, relegation had little to do with it. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 21:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "make further progress" relatively meaningless.
  • Removed. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 21:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "for a promotion play-off place during" I think you’ve already linked play-offs.
  • That's the first time I linked EFL Championship play-offs. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:32, 29 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "immediately became serious contenders" that’s not in the FCHD ref.
  • Hmmm, replaced the ref. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:32, 29 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "play-off place by one goal" how? On goals scored after finishing level on points and goal difference? Needs clarification.
  • Expanded. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:32, 29 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "close to administration again" you link that term here, but you say "again", so it should be made clear in the previous discussion on this that the "administration" was the same thing.
*"on-field form had also declined despite" that is not referenced in FCHD.
  • Removed again; reworded. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:32, 29 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "Chairman Barry Kilby owned 51 per cent of the company's shares." And?
  • Expanded. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:32, 29 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "Another run of poor results… " the following season?
  • Yes, added. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:32, 29 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "The 2008–09 season, Coyle's first full season " season/season repetitive.
  • Reworded. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:32, 29 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "The side led 3–0 at home" -> "Burnley led…."

  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:32, 29 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Premier League football and back in Europe (2009–present)

• "against defending champions" could link previous season’s PL.
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:32, 29 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "Coyle was replaced…" He was replaced.
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:32, 29 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "ed with Brian Laws" maybe "former player Brian Laws" since you’re not linking him and the context has gone missing.
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:32, 29 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "replaced with Eddie" replaced by.
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:32, 29 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "for personal reasons" should probably be in quotes. Wikipedia isn’t saying that.
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:32, 29 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "tipped as relegation candidates" by whom?
  • Added. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:32, 29 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "Burnley's top goal scorer" you mean from the previous season?
  • Added. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:32, 29 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "The new signing " more detail, and probably "Their new signing…"
*"and were ensured to play" guaranteed.
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:32, 29 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "that season's FA Cup competition" no need for "competition".
  • Removed. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:32, 29 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "winning more points away than at home" that is interesting but it needs context for it to be here, I know it was reported that they were better travellers but something footnote here.
  • Reworded it a bit, should hopefully be enough. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:32, 29 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "five points away from the European places" five points below the European qualification places.
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:32, 29 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• "by persons other " persons? Anyone?
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:32, 29 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Where did Burnley finish at the end of the 2021 season?
  • I don't think it adds much value to include. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:32, 29 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • I'm confused as to why their most recent league finish isn't included? It's probably the most relevant fact to most readers! The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 21:40, 30 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
      • Added. Hopefully the sentence can be replaced by a more positive league finish this season... WA8MTWAYC (talk) 06:42, 31 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Just references to go on the first pass. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 20:21, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Refs

• Ref 9 ISBN inconsistently formatted s those in the General refs.
  • Amended. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:44, 1 August 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Check other ISBNs.
  • Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:44, 1 August 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• RSSSF is a website.
  • Amended. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:44, 1 August 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• What makes "English Football League Tables" a reliable and high quality source?
  • Replaced it with a book source. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:44, 1 August 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Ref 83. Which "The Herald"?
  • Glasgow; amended. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:44, 1 August 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• BBC Sport is not italicised in our world.
  • Amended. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:44, 1 August 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Ref 133. Which "The Telegraph" is it, The Daily Telegraph?
  • Yes; amended. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:44, 1 August 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 20:22, 31 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Rambling Man Thank you very much for this review, I appreciate it. I've addressed your comments. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:44, 1 August 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No worries. I'm happy to support the nomination now, good work. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 09:48, 1 August 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

CommentsSupport by Z1720[edit]

Non-expert prose review.

• "who decided to leave the rugby code" What is a rugby code? Is that the name of the league they were participating in? Perhaps a different word can be used here, or this can be wikilinked.
  • With rugby code I meant the sport itself; I've reworded it a bit.
• "one of the twelve founder members" founding members?
  • Founder members is British English.
• "That same year saw the team win their first trophy." Move this to the end of the info about the Dr Dean Trophy, as I was confused when it was placed at the beginning.
  • Done
• " Burnley director and Football League management committee member Charles Sutcliffe had already proposed the discontinuation of test matches." I'm not sure why this is important for the article and perhaps can be deleted.
  • Deleted

• "the side finished in last place in 1902–03 but were re-elected." What does re-elected mean?
  • Added a footnote.
• "whose father travelled from Australia to see him play in the final," Why is this important for the reader to know? Since the article is already quite long, I think this can be deleted.
  • Removed
• "Jonathan Brown, William Pickering" I assume these are players, but this should be specified in the article.
  • Done
• "while Teddy Hodgson died after he contracted a kidney problem." Was this in relation to the war? If not, it can be delete.
  • This was in relation to the war.
• "while Page played in attack" What does played in attack mean?
  • As a forward/striker; reworded
• "A tied club record 9–0 victory over New Brighton in the next round followed despite Doug Winton missing a penalty." -> In the next round, the club tied their record for largest victory with a score of 9–0 over New Brighton." I don't think this information about missing a penalty is needed.
  • Reworded; deleted the penalty part
• "—only McIlroy and Alex Elder had cost a transfer fee. Both players were bought from Northern Irish club Glentoran; McIlroy transferred to Burnley for £8,000 (the equivalent of £276,000 as of 2021[b]) in 1950, while Elder cost the club £5,000 (the equivalent of £117,000 as of 2021[b]) in January 1959. -> "Only two players, McIlroy and Alex Elder, cost a transfer fee, with both players bought from Northern Irish club Glentoran for £8,000 (the equivalent of £276,000 as of 2021[b]) in 1950 and £5,000 (the equivalent of £117,000 as of 2021[b]) in January 1959, respectively." Since this section is long, I want to reduce the number of words wherever I can.
  • That's alright; done
• "Although the team faced strong opponents, the players found it hard to take the tournament seriously. The stadium announcer often misinterpreted the referee's decisions, the crowd showed little interest in the games, and every match would end with a countdown "worthy of a space-rocket launching"." I'm not sure this information belongs in this article, as it is more about the tournament than the team. Since this article is already quite large, I recommend deleting it.
  • Done
• "Although Burnley were far from a two-man team," I don't think this is necessary and can be deleted.
  • Done
• " The impact of the abolition of the maximum wage in 1961, which meant clubs from small towns like Burnley could no longer compete financially with sides from bigger towns and cities, was more damaging." This sentence should be placed before the previous sentence as it happened chronologically first.
  • Done
• "fans criticised Bond for signing expensive players, increasing Burnley's debt, and for selling Lee Dixon, Brian Laws and Trevor Steven." -> fans criticised Bond for increasing Burnley's debt by signing expensive players, and for selling Lee Dixon, Brian Laws and Trevor Steven.
  • Done
• "For the upcoming 1986–87 campaign," Delete upcoming as redundant wording
  • Done
• " they needed a win against Orient, and for Lincoln City to lose and for Torquay United to not win." -> they needed to win against Orient, for Lincoln City to lose their match, and Torquay United to not win theirs."
  • Done
• "In front of approximately 35,000 Burnley supporters and a total attendance of 44,806," Why are the attendance numbers important for this match? I think this can be deleted.
  • Deleted (although it's still kinda special to outnumber your rivals by such numbers).
• Per MOS:REFERENCES, "Usually, if the sections are separated, then explanatory footnotes are listed first, short citations or other footnoted citations are next, and any full citations or general references are listed last." Unless there is a reason for general references to be listed first, they should probably be moved to after the specific references.
  • Done
• Per WP:CITEVAR, citation styles should be consistent. If Quelch and Simpson are book sources and are going to be listed in General references, then the other books used in the references section (Butler, Inglis, and Thomas) should have the same citation style and be listed in General.
  • The books listed in the general section were used multiple times (multiple refs). Books listed in the specific section are only used once (one ref). Do you think I should include all used books in the general section?
    • Yes, because it makes the book citations consistent. Z1720 (talk) 13:07, 12 August 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
      • Z1720 Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 16:19, 12 August 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• What is Clarets Mad? If it is a fansite, it might fall under WP:ELNO #11 and should be removed.
  • Removed

Those are my thoughts. Please ping after the above have been responded to. Z1720 (talk) 19:33, 10 August 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Z1720 Thank you very much for your time and review, it's appreciated! I've addressed your points and left some comments. Thanks, WA8MTWAYC (talk) 22:18, 10 August 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

My concerns have been addressed, I support. Z1720 (talk) 16:51, 12 August 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Comments Edwininlondon[edit]

I saw a request for a source review for this. Happy yo do that, but I'll start with some minor comments on the article itself:

• to abandon its rugby roots --> I find this a bit too poetic
  • Reworded
• changed code to football --> changed to football?
  • Done
• continuously occupied the same ground for longer --> is this England wide or worldwide?
  • It's worldwide; added
• a donation of £65 --> does this mean that the cricket club owns Burneley's home ground? Still?
  • No, Turf Moor is owned by Burnley. I don't know when the stadium (or rather the land) really became in the hands of the club, however.
• after which the gates started to slightly improve --> not sure about this expression. I'm sure it's correct but is it right for readers here?
  • I've switched "gates" and "attendances" in the sentence, so it'll hopefully be clear what gates alludes to.
• implemented a Total Football playing style --> it wasn't called that yet, so perhaps "a playing style which later became known as Total Football"
  • Done
• The caption "Wade Elliott's goal earned Burnley a 1–0 victory over Sheffield United in the Championship play-off Final," has a capital F, but in the body text it is a small f
  • Great find; amended
• Note d and e are the same. Is it possible to merge them?
  • Note d and e are identical, but in 1888-89 (note d) there were four teams in the "relegation/re-election zone", while there were three in 1902-03 (note e). Both notes also use different refs. So if it's okay with you, I'm keeping the notes apart.
    • OK

I hope to be able to do a spot check later today. Edwininlondon (talk) 09:30, 22 August 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Edwininlondon Thanks very much for your time and review, I appreciate it. I've addressed your points and left some comments. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 11:33, 22 August 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Spotcheck: #65 88 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 all ok.

I see The Rambling Man has already been so kind to look at the references' formatting and source reliability. I trust his judgment. I also note that WA8MTWAYC already has quite a few successful FACs, so I think my spotcheck suffices. I Support. Edwininlondon (talk) 20:34, 22 August 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the ((featured article candidates)) template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:26, 8 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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