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The list was promoted by Giants2008 17:11, 4 September 2012 [1].

Kanye West discography[edit]

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Nominator(s): Holiday56 (talk) 15:12, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because having done much work on the article, including starting a peer review and applying necessary changes, I believe it finally meets the criteria for becoming a featured list. Holiday56 (talk) 15:12, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Calvin999 (talk) 11:13, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments by Calvin999 I think the tables and citations look really good and clean, not messy or hard to navigate around. Thanks. Holiday56 (talk) 07:10, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply] I actually thought the picture was Jay-Z at first glance, is there a better one for Kanye? Done. Holiday56 (talk) 07:10, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply] I'd put the last sentence about Katy Perry's song before Watch The Throne, as he was featured on that song before the album came out. Just to be chronological with time. Done. Holiday56 (talk) 07:10, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply] Quite a lot of dab links which need to be fixed. Done. Holiday56 (talk) 07:10, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply] Aaron • ^{You Da One} 23:30, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply] In the references, every Billboard and Prometheus Global Media is linked. Only the first reference should have them linked, all others thereafter should not be linked. This goes for all other references too. It's overlinking. Not done yet. There have been discussions about how repeat linking in reference sections can actually be helpful for readers, as reference sections don't tend to be read like normal prose. This discussion over at the talk page for the Manual of Style brought up this point, and the outcome of the discussion was the addition of the word "footnotes" in the sentence "Generally, a link should appear only once in an article, but if helpful for readers, links may be repeated in infoboxes, tables, image captions, footnotes, and at the first occurrence after the lead." of the "What generally should not be linked" section. Multiple featured lists alternate between repeating links in references (e.g. Jordin Sparks discography, Birdman discography, Red Hot Chili Peppers discography) and not repeating them (e.g. Jennifer Lopez discography, Chris Brown discography, Backstreet Boys discography). Holiday56 (talk) 07:10, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply] Okay. Will see what others say. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 18:55, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply] No one else has had a problem with this point in 9 days so I mark it as resolved. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 16:28, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Calvin999 (talk) 11:13, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Calvin999

I think the tables and citations look really good and clean, not messy or hard to navigate around.
Thanks. Holiday56 (talk) 07:10, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I actually thought the picture was Jay-Z at first glance, is there a better one for Kanye?
Done. Holiday56 (talk) 07:10, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'd put the last sentence about Katy Perry's song before Watch The Throne, as he was featured on that song before the album came out. Just to be chronological with time.
Done. Holiday56 (talk) 07:10, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Quite a lot of dab links which need to be fixed.
Done. Holiday56 (talk) 07:10, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Aaron • ^{You Da One} 23:30, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In the references, every Billboard and Prometheus Global Media is linked. Only the first reference should have them linked, all others thereafter should not be linked. This goes for all other references too. It's overlinking.
Not done yet. There have been discussions about how repeat linking in reference sections can actually be helpful for readers, as reference sections don't tend to be read like normal prose. This discussion over at the talk page for the Manual of Style brought up this point, and the outcome of the discussion was the addition of the word "footnotes" in the sentence "Generally, a link should appear only once in an article, but if helpful for readers, links may be repeated in infoboxes, tables, image captions, footnotes, and at the first occurrence after the lead." of the "What generally should not be linked" section. Multiple featured lists alternate between repeating links in references (e.g. Jordin Sparks discography, Birdman discography, Red Hot Chili Peppers discography) and not repeating them (e.g. Jennifer Lopez discography, Chris Brown discography, Backstreet Boys discography). Holiday56 (talk) 07:10, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. Will see what others say. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 18:55, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No one else has had a problem with this point in 9 days so I mark it as resolved. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 16:28, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support Aaron • ^{You Da One} 16:28, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from NapHit (talk) 17:53, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments Refs should come after punctuation, currently ref 5 in the second para does not Done. Holiday56 (talk) 02:52, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply] "breaking the previous record set by West's previous album" not keen on the use of previous twice in this sentence, removing the first use of previous should solve the issue Done. Holiday56 (talk) 02:52, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply] NapHit (talk) 18:26, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from NapHit (talk) 17:53, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Refs should come after punctuation, currently ref 5 in the second para does not
Done. Holiday56 (talk) 02:52, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"breaking the previous record set by West's previous album" not keen on the use of previous twice in this sentence, removing the first use of previous should solve the issue
Done. Holiday56 (talk) 02:52, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

NapHit (talk) 18:26, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support NapHit (talk) 17:53, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 18:14, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments You say he's a producer, does this discog include his productions? Done. Since a separate production discography already exists for West, I've removed "producer" in the opening. Holiday56 (talk) 14:04, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply] "30 million digital songs" digital downloads really, not digital songs.. Done. Holiday56 (talk) 14:04, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply] "West has had six songs exceed 3 million in digital sales as of May 2012" maybe "As of May 2012, six of West's songs have exceeded three million digital downloads"? Done. Holiday56 (talk) 14:04, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply] "from the RIAA.[9][6]" better to have these numerical. Done. Holiday56 (talk) 14:04, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply] "peaked at number-one" no need for hyphen, because you're not being consistent, see earlier use of "at number two"... Done. Holiday56 (talk) 14:04, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply] "a total of " is this really necessary? Why not just "seven"? Done. Holiday56 (talk) 14:04, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply] "Till the Casket Drops" thought that was just "Til"... Done. Holiday56 (talk) 14:04, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply] Refs - thought Allmusic was actually AllMusic. Done. Holiday56 (talk) 14:04, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply] The Rambling Man (talk) 19:04, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply] Table captions should really be descriptive of the tables, not just the same each time. Can you be specific on which table captions need to be more descriptive? I've seen captions similar to the ones being used in the Kanye West discography article right now in several other discographies I've seen, including some featured lists. Based on their use in featured lists, I just assumed that the captions were fine to use. I'd appreciate some suggestions. Holiday56 (talk) 14:04, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply] Sure thing. Where you have "List of albums, with selected chart positions, sales figures and certifications" several times, I'd expect to see "... collaborative albums ..." and "... studio albums ..." etc so the captions are different and more descriptive for each table. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:50, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply] Okay. Made some changes to the table captions for the albums section. Holiday56 (talk) 09:50, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 18:14, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

You say he's a producer, does this discog include his productions?
Done. Since a separate production discography already exists for West, I've removed "producer" in the opening. Holiday56 (talk) 14:04, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"30 million digital songs" digital downloads really, not digital songs..
Done. Holiday56 (talk) 14:04, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"West has had six songs exceed 3 million in digital sales as of May 2012" maybe "As of May 2012, six of West's songs have exceeded three million digital downloads"?
Done. Holiday56 (talk) 14:04, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"from the RIAA.[9][6]" better to have these numerical.
Done. Holiday56 (talk) 14:04, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"peaked at number-one" no need for hyphen, because you're not being consistent, see earlier use of "at number two"...
Done. Holiday56 (talk) 14:04, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"a total of " is this really necessary? Why not just "seven"?
Done. Holiday56 (talk) 14:04, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"Till the Casket Drops" thought that was just "Til"...
Done. Holiday56 (talk) 14:04, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Refs - thought Allmusic was actually AllMusic.
Done. Holiday56 (talk) 14:04, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 19:04, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Table captions should really be descriptive of the tables, not just the same each time.
- Can you be specific on which table captions need to be more descriptive? I've seen captions similar to the ones being used in the Kanye West discography article right now in several other discographies I've seen, including some featured lists. Based on their use in featured lists, I just assumed that the captions were fine to use. I'd appreciate some suggestions. Holiday56 (talk) 14:04, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Sure thing. Where you have "List of albums, with selected chart positions, sales figures and certifications" several times, I'd expect to see "... collaborative albums ..." and "... studio albums ..." etc so the captions are different and more descriptive for each table. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:50, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - Okay. Made some changes to the table captions for the albums section. Holiday56 (talk) 09:50, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support Issues above have been adressed. Bruce Campbell (talk) 03:17, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Giants2008 (Talk) 02:32, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Source comments – What makes HipHopDX (refs 33 and 36) a reliable source? This section of the WikiProject Albums talk page points out several reputable sites and publications that cite HipHopDX. Holiday56 (talk) 03:49, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply] What makes zobbel.de (used in ref 49, three times in 61, and four times in 91) reliable? Zobbel is the primary source used for UK chart positions below 100, and sources its information from official UK chart media. Several featured lists also use the site as a source. Holiday56 (talk) 03:49, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply] Hyphens in the title of ref 77 should probably be en dashes instead. Done. Holiday56 (talk) 03:49, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply] Is Global Grind (ref 148) reliable? Done. Replaced with MTV sources. Holiday56 (talk) 03:49, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply] Or Consequence of Sound (ref 180)? Done. Replaced with an MTV source. Holiday56 (talk) 03:49, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply] Refs 193 and 196 have all caps in their titles that should be fixed. Giants2008 (Talk) 02:32, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply] Done. Holiday56 (talk) 03:49, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Giants2008 (Talk) 02:32, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Source comments –

What makes HipHopDX (refs 33 and 36) a reliable source?
- This section of the WikiProject Albums talk page points out several reputable sites and publications that cite HipHopDX. Holiday56 (talk) 03:49, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
What makes zobbel.de (used in ref 49, three times in 61, and four times in 91) reliable?
- Zobbel is the primary source used for UK chart positions below 100, and sources its information from official UK chart media. Several featured lists also use the site as a source. Holiday56 (talk) 03:49, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hyphens in the title of ref 77 should probably be en dashes instead.
Done. Holiday56 (talk) 03:49, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Is Global Grind (ref 148) reliable?
Done. Replaced with MTV sources. Holiday56 (talk) 03:49, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Or Consequence of Sound (ref 180)?
Done. Replaced with an MTV source. Holiday56 (talk) 03:49, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Refs 193 and 196 have all caps in their titles that should be fixed. Giants2008 (Talk) 02:32, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Holiday56 (talk) 03:49, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from I Am Rufus • Conversation is a beautiful thing. 17:32, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Sufur222 Most of my concerns were addressed in the peer review, but there's one more thing I've noticed: the RIAA ref needs quotation marks around the search parameter (i.e. http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php?artist=%22West%2C+Kanye%22) otherwise no results appear. If this is fixed, I will happily support this. I Am Rufus • Conversation is a beautiful thing. 07:10, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply] Done. Holiday56 (talk) 11:42, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from I Am Rufus • Conversation is a beautiful thing. 17:32, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Sufur222

Most of my concerns were addressed in the peer review, but there's one more thing I've noticed: the RIAA ref needs quotation marks around the search parameter (i.e. http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php?artist=%22West%2C+Kanye%22) otherwise no results appear. If this is fixed, I will happily support this. I Am Rufus • Conversation is a beautiful thing. 07:10, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Holiday56 (talk) 11:42, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support I Am Rufus • Conversation is a beautiful thing. 17:32, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Lead is well written, tables are properly formatted and sourcing is consistent and professional. I did a few tweaks if you don't mind, but otherwise great work. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 21:02, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- One quick query: using "NA" for unknown directors implies that the video never had a director. I've seen other FLs use a dash instead and have a note at the bottom ("—" denotes an unknown director). That should clarify any confusion with the directors. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 21:13, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Since n/a is also an abbreviation for "not available", I think it would be fine to use the template. Many featured lists alternate between using the template and notation. Holiday56 (talk) 05:14, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - Sounds reasonable. I'm okay then. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 10:09, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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