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The list was promoted by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 20 January 2020 (UTC) [1].Reply[reply]


List of Austria international footballers[edit]

List of Austria international footballers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Nominator(s): Kosack (talk) 16:50, 29 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I currently have one FLC active however, it currently has three supports and no outstanding comments so I believe it's OK to move ahead nominate a new page. This is another international player list, this time a slightly longer one given the history of the nation. I believe it meets the standards of the previous lists and is ready for FLC. I look forward to any comments. Kosack (talk) 16:50, 29 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Comments
@ChrisTheDude: Thanks for the review Chris, I've amended all of the issues above I believe. Although, I can't see a line break on either my mobile or laptop? Do you know what's causing it? Kosack (talk) 06:40, 8 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've fixed the issue with the note. I would still like to see "brace" (in paragraph 2) either wikilinked to somewhere or else clarified in prose, as I don't think every reader will necessarily know what it means..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:50, 8 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Woops, thought I'd added that in for some reason. Linked it now. Cheers. Kosack (talk) 18:53, 8 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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@NatureBoyMD: Thanks very much for the review, I've addressed all of the issues above. I've added some notes about dual-representation to make the notes column worthwhile as well. Let me know if there is anything else. Kosack (talk) 07:10, 12 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Resolved comments from Giants2008 (Talk) 17:53, 16 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comments
  • List: The heading of the section is self-explanatory, as it is obviously a list. Something like Players or Footballers would be better. - Done
  • What makes eu-football.info (ref 20) a reliable source? Giants2008 (Talk) 23:19, 13 November 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Although I'm unsure of the actual publisher of the site, it is widely used across football articles and is included in WP:FOOTBALL's list of recommended links. The site also lists a substantial sourcing section including archives of the periodicals used. Kosack (talk) 06:29, 14 November 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm still not sure about this site, as not knowing who publishes it doesn't fill me with confidence. I'll leave it unstruck for others to consider. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:05, 14 November 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Kosack:, I am happy to help find an alternative source, if I can be of any use. What is the eu-football link sourcing that the other two refs at the top of the table aren't? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:33, 16 December 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks Chris, it's not actually supporting anything on its own. The rsssf list covers the table while Soccerway updates more regularly than rsssf does so to cover more recent fixtures. The eu-football was really just adding further backbone so it's not the end of the world if it needs to come out. Kosack (talk) 13:03, 16 December 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Kosack: Since this is the oldest current FLC, the site still doesn't strike me as overly reliable, and it really isn't needed for anything, would you be amenable to removing it? I'd like to conclude this review ASAP, as this has been at FLC since August and the source looks like the last outstanding issue. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:20, 15 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Giants2008: Sure, I've removed the source. Kosack (talk) 21:33, 15 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Comments by Teratix[edit]

  • Reworded, I'm preparing to update the list over the coming weeks along with the other promoted ones. Kosack (talk) 09:15, 5 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Unless there's a policy based reason, I'd rather keep this if possible to remain inline with previous list promotions. Kosack (talk) 09:15, 5 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Might add some more comments later, this is just from a brief examination. – Teratix 06:49, 5 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for taking a look, I've addressed all of the comments above. Let me know if there is anything else. Kosack (talk) 09:15, 5 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comments by MPJ-DK

First of, I am part of the 2020 WikiCup and will be getting points for this as long as it is a comprehensive review. I also have my own FL candidate I just posted yesterday and as such is helping pay back for the input of other FLC reviwers. Looking at the age of the nomination I sympathize as I've had several die on the vine over the years. Let's hope this doesn't happen here.

Players
  • Should have been plural for Championships, amended. Kosack (talk) 09:12, 12 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Key
  • The link is for being active, which links to the national side. The note is not really a criteria it just describes that, due to the fact that the majority of international players will never officially announce their retirement, any active player is still considered active unless sourcing can be provided to show he is retired. Kosack (talk) 09:12, 12 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
List
  • The table is ordered by number of caps, so the position and caps column are listing the same value. Therefore it makes it rather unnecessary for them both to sort. Kosack (talk) 09:12, 12 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Well it's rather unusual and is simply to denote the shared allegiance. As I mentioned to the user above, the column is not there just because of that, it is a design that has gone across several FL listed international player lists which I would rather keep to maintain consistency in these lists. Kosack (talk) 09:12, 12 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Images
Sources

I will come back and look at the prose as soon as possible, but I wanted to give my input for this right away. MPJ-DK (talk) 02:44, 12 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the review, I've addressed all of the comments above. Kosack (talk) 09:12, 12 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've looked through your replies, I'm good with the changes or explanations.
"A friendly" - is that the common term? and is it a bit WP:JARGONy?
  • The term is definitely a common term, uncompetitive international matches are always referred to as friendlies. Kosack (talk) 19:34, 12 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
...an unbroken spell of fixtures between November 1948 and May 1956 - if that means consecutive then why not simply write that? I had to read it three times to get it (granted I am slow ;) ) - Reworded
Statistics updated following match played on 19 November 2019. - but the accessdate for the sources state "25 August 2019", if the table was udated based on the data in the sources I believe the "Accessdate" should be updated to make sure it's clear. - Updated
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