• "Spain's first truly national league" truly is redundant remove it
  • Done.AdrianRO ^talk 07:45, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• "Real Madrid enjoyed a successful start" enjoyed isn't particularly encyclopedic I would change it to had
  • Done.AdrianRO ^talk 07:45, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• "Real Madrid enjoyed a successful start in La Liga, finishing second in the competition's first season." I would move this to after the bit about the copa del rey
  • Done.AdrianRO ^talk 07:45, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• "In the 1947-48 season" you need to use an en dash instead of a hyphen and is there no link to an article?
  • Done.AdrianRO ^talk 07:45, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• "Real Madrid had finished" remove had its not needed
  • Done.AdrianRO ^talk 07:45, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• "Real Madrid went on to win" this could be shortened to "Real Madrid won"
  • Done.AdrianRO ^talk 07:45, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• "club in terms of domestic titles is the 1960s" its past tense so it should be was
  • Done.AdrianRO ^talk 07:45, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• "managed to win" again won would be better
  • Done.AdrianRO ^talk 07:45, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• "having achieved this performance" change to which it has done twice
  • Done.AdrianRO ^talk 07:45, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• the 1955-56 link needs an en dash
  • Done.AdrianRO ^talk 07:45, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• "being also the first ever winners of this tournament" change to and were the first winners of the competition
  • Done.AdrianRO ^talk 07:45, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• "It also managed to win the first five editions of the European Cup, and as of today it is the most successful team of the competition, with nine titles (the last of them being won in 2002)" sentence doesn't read well change to Real Madrid won the European Cup five years in succession since its inception, it won the competition a further four times, the last of which was in 2002. Its nine victories is the record number of victories by any club.
  • Done.AdrianRO ^talk 07:45, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• The links to the seasons redirect to the current page this needs fixing
  • Please be explicit. I don't know what you mean here.AdrianRO ^talk 07:45, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Basically the links to any seasons articles should have the years at the start not at the end like they currently are, as at the moment they don't link directly to the page. NapHit (talk) 12:58, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done.AdrianRO ^talk 15:31, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but this has not been done, the La Liga links still have the years the wrong way round. The champions league ones need en dashes instead of dashes between the years. NapHit (talk) 18:06, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done. AdrianRO ^talk 09:51, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Real Madrid is the team with more European trophies than any other football team (12). That defenitely needs referencing as this list suggests otherwise
  • Done.AdrianRO ^talk 08:00, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Generally numbers over 10 need to be indicated in figures
  • Done.AdrianRO ^talk 07:45, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• The Super Cup and Intercontinental Cup need linking in the lead
  • Done.AdrianRO ^talk 07:45, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's alot of comments to deal with and that's just the lead, the table also needs alot of work to get it up to scratch. Here's my comments for the table

• Firstly I would merge the two tables and just put dashes in the areas that are not affected by the early regional championships
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 09:39, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• The referencing is a major problem for me is there not a book that covers the majority of Real's history which can be used.
• The top scorer columns are unreferenced as far as I can see
  • reffed in column note. Sandman888 (talk) 23:13, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• You don't need the RSSSF refs for every UEFA competition is there not a ref that covers Real's participation in competitions season by season?
• The table fails WP:ACCESS see MOS:DTT for more info
• Using Template:Football season start would solve the pint mentioned above and make the table sortable which is a must in my opinion
  • Any idea how to make it sortable without using this template? Cause using this template means starting out from zero with the table, and that's hard job to do. And, as you can see, I am for a while the only one editing this article. AdrianRO ^talk 08:02, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If I were you I'd just use the template its easier, look at the Watford list and the Liverpool one to see how. Yes its a lot but all your doing essentially is translating the information over so it won't take that long. NapHit (talk) 18:02, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• If your using colours there needs to be a symbol used alongside as well
  • C and 1st are perfectly readable for the colourblind. Sandman888 (talk) 23:13, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Points total should not be bolded
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 13:04, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• The first general ref should be removed it inly plots league position and doesn't provide any other information so its usually useless as a general ref

Done. AdrianRO ^talk 15:35, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As a guide I would look at List of Watford F.C. seasons and List of Liverpool F.C. seasons for help on the table which is a major problem at the moment. The lead is not great either but it can be fixed fairly easily. As there are a number of problems I'm going to oppose for now but if the problems are cleared up I'll be happy to revise that. Cheers NapHit (talk) 23:39, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• I just used List of FC Barcelona seasons (which is also a FL) as a guide. The tables structure is quite similar. I worked a lot to introduce every result in the table, so a change in structure will take some time. But why List of FC Barcelona seasons is still a FL while it is very similar to this article? AdrianRO ^talk 08:15, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Barcelona list was promoted a while ago and since then guidelines have moved on, as lists such as this now use sortable tables then future lists that are up for candidacy must follow suit. Its WP:POINT to say this list is featured list while mine is exactly the same. The fact is it was promoted a whil ago and the guidelines have moved on, there is nothing more to it. There was an issue about this sort of thing fairly recently see here where you can see the debate about the tables. NapHit (talk) 12:58, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nearly there a few more comments:

• The position column should be after the points column, this is standard practice in seasons lists in wikipedia, it looks weird having that column first, it should come after the results to represent how the season progressed
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 15:47, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• You need to use † instead of using † per WP:ACCESS
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 15:47, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Also move the symbols next to the letter and superscript, an example would be: ^W*
  • Are you sure about this? Maybe just the symbol needs to be superscript, not together with the "W". AdrianRO ^talk 13:59, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 15:47, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• You use C and F to represent champions and Finalists I would go for W and RU to instead. F makes it ambiguous in my opinion and as use Runner-up in the Key you should use the abbreviation, and as most lists concerning trophies refer to them as winner, I think you should use this.
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 15:47, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

NapHit (talk) 22:36, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Say "association" football club just to be sure to our US/Aus friends etc.
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 05:54, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• "when it entered the semi-final" what? You mean it played that match, right? And against whom? And what happened?
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 05:54, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• "Initially Real Madrid .." so after playing someone with some unknown result in the Copa del Rey, the club started playing local clubs etc?

Confused. Perhaps you need to put that cup appearance into context.

• • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 05:54, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• "In the period from 1902 to 1929" don't need "In the period".
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 05:54, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• "Real Madrid had a successful start in La Liga, finishing second in the competition's first season. The club did not win the league until 1932." reads poorly to me. Merge this and remove the feeling that they should have won it sooner (i.e. you say, they didn't win it until..., big deal... why should they have?)
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 05:54, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• "which it has done twice " -> " a feat which it has achieved on two occasions..."
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 05:54, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• "in European competition during the 1954–55 season" what season? European season? Spanish season?
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 05:54, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• "when they played in the Latin Cup. It won" plural/singular reference to Real Madrid. Be consistent.
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 05:54, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• "It won its first European trophy, the European Cup, during the 1955–56 season, and were the first winners of the competition." horrendous. Perhaps something like "Real Madrid won their first European title, and the inaugural European Cup, during the...".
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 05:54, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• "Real Madrid won the European Cup five years in succession since its inception, it won the competition a further four times, the last of which was in 2002. " do you mean they won the first five editions of the European Cup? this English is a little difficult for me.
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 05:54, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• " Its nine victories is the record number of victories by any club" repetitive - victories, victories.
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 05:54, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• "first double of league championship and Cup in 1962." you link La Liga for 1962 but no link for "Cup"...
  • Eliminated the La Liga link because the 1962 Cup link redirects nowhere. AdrianRO ^talk 05:54, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• "are the second most successful club in UEFA competitions winning 15.[5]" - ref 5 doesn't back up the claim of second most successful club as far as I can see.
  • The 15 trophies are depicted in the right of the page, where it says "Trophy cabinet". AdrianRO ^talk 05:54, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fix/copyedit lead, and I may be tempted back to review the remaining part of the article. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:47, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• "when it lost with 3-1 the semi-final of the Campeonato de Copa de S.M. Alfonso XIII against FC Barcelona." First part of this sounds better as "when it lost 3–1 in the semi-final...". Don't forget that the score needs an en dash, like the one I put in here.
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 09:44, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• No need for a second FC Barcelona link in the first paragraph.
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 09:44, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Also don't need two European Cup links in the lead.
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 09:44, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• "It won its first double of league championship and Cup in 1962." The Cup is the Copa del Rey, correct? Maybe make that word "Copa" in the sentence to make it clearer. Otherwise you could be referring to the European Cup.
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 09:44, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• "Real Madrid is the second most successful club in UEFA competitions winning 15." Comma needed before "winning".
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 09:44, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• The licensing of the lead image is rather suspect. It says it's the uploader's own work, but is from 1905. It's awfully convenient for them to have a 100-year-old photo lying around. Also, the license depends on the author having been dead for 70 years, but the author isn't listed here.
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 10:50, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Seasons: First sentence doesn't make sense on its own. What period is it referring to?
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 09:44, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Not sure if the second word of "Spanish League" needs the capitalization.
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 09:44, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• In the table headings, decapitalize "Top" in "La Liga Top Scorer".
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 09:44, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• The colors for champions and runners-up need matching symbols per WP:ACCESS, just like the ones included for leading scorers.
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 10:35, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• In note 4, is "fusioned" meant to be "merged"? I'd go with the latter, as it's simpler to understand.
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 10:35, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• The publisher in the general reference has a double period.
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 10:35, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Refs 1, 2, 3, 5, 20, and 23 have hyphens in the titles that should instead be en dashes. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 15:30, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 10:35, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • The one in ref 1 should have been in the year range, not "Pre-history". Giants2008 (27 and counting) 23:06, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 04:58, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Is there a cite for Real Madrid being the only Spanish team to win five straight titles?
  • No, there is not. It will be good a site with a table of all Spanish league champions? There it can be noticed this fact. AdrianRO ^talk 05:10, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yes, a cite with a listing of all Spanish champions would do. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 21:04, 24 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 06:58, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Note 5 needs heavy copy-editing or re-writing. The other notes are spotty prose-wise as well.
  • Details for each note would work, as I'm not a native English speaker. AdrianRO ^talk 21:58, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Note 5: "The first match against Club Espanol de Madrid finished 5–5, the captain's of both teams opposed extra time." The comma should be a semi-colon, and the apostrophe needs to be removed from "captain's".
      • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 08:48, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • In note 9, the external link should be made into a citation. Maybe put it at the end of the note with the other cite?
      • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 08:48, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Note 14: Remove en dash from "each–other".
      • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 08:48, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Note 18 doesn't have an en dash in "Campeonato Regional Mancomunado Centre-Sur" like note 17 has.
      • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 08:48, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Notes 16, 17, 18, and 20 could all use periods at the end.
      • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 08:48, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Note 24 could use a cite since the similar note 23 has one. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 21:10, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • Done. AdrianRO ^talk 08:48, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]