Oppose – Love the idea of this list, but there's way too much uncited content at the present time. A lot of work needs to be done here before this will be ready for the star.
- "Phil Jackson is a basketball player and coach who is considered one of the Top 10 Coaches in National Basketball Association History." I would change "who is considered" to "who has been voted" to take away attribution concerns that come with the word "considered" (by whom is always the question). It also helps the capitalization make more sense. The table notes contain something like this as well.
- Don't see any reason why Rodeo should be capitalized in the next sentence.
- Remove space before reference 11.
- No need to link Pro Bowl twice in the lead.
- "He was the first soccer-style kicker in the NFL and elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1991." Add another "was" before "elected" and remove the repeat Hall of Fame link.
- One example of entries not fully backed up by sources is Bill Wilkinson in the baseball section. The notes say that he "Lived in Great Falls during his mid-teens", but the ref doesn't back that up. Baseball-Reference lists Wilkinson as having lived in Wyoming and Colorado, but I don't see Great Falls, Montana anywhere.
- Vedie Himsl: Source only mentions one year as a manager, not everything else he did (playing, coaching, scouting).
- Added two sources to list and article.
- For Les Rohr, the source doesn't prove that he "Moved to Montana when very young", though it does verify that he attended high school there.
- Added official site covering that.
- Basketball: Robin Selvig has spare brackets after "Coach" in the notes.
- Football: The ref on Jerry Kramer was an interesting video, but I don't recall seeing that he was born in Montana in it. Pro Football Reference probably has it covered, so a second ref for that entry is worthwhile. That will take care of those honors listed as well.
- Kramer's note should probably say "ranked number one player not in the Hall of Fame by the NFL Network" for attribution purposes.
- Bobby Petrino: "collegiate head coach University of Louisville...". Needs a word or two after "coach".
- The source for Jan Stenerud says skiing scholarship, not ski jumping scholarship. It may well have been a ski jumping scholarship, but if so another source is needed to prove that.
- Jim Sweeney: The source for him says nothing about Jan Stenerud. A space would be nice before the parenthetical (MSU), but this is a secondary issue.
- Rodeo: For Bill Linderman, the source doesn't give his accolades, nor does it really verify his birth place (it just says his parents were from there). If you look at the article, you should find other sources that contain the information needing citation here.
- Dan Mortensen: The source doesn't verify his membership in the ProRodeo Hall of Fame.
- Other athletes: The Alice Ritzman bio from the LPGA doesn't give her birth place, though it does say she's from the state.
- Tweaked entry, added ref.
- The Leslie Spaulding source says she resides in Billings, not Bozeman.
- She lived in both, Billings til about 2004 and then at Bozeman while coaching 2007-2011. Just updated list and article, with refs.
- As a general note, how many of these lifespans are backed up in the sources? Going back to Linderman for a second, it's impossible for the ref to cover it because it came from before he died. I'd be interested to see how many are actually backed up and how many were taken from articles here. For the major sports a stat site would have the birth/death dates covered, but for minor sports like rodeo attention needs to be paid to this factor.
- I've updated everything you've found and will keep looking on my own in case you missed some.
- In ref 105, Sher Dog should be Sherdog.
- What makes Inside Pittsburgh Pirates (ref 22), Mpora Pure Action Sports (ref 104), and North Face (ref 107) reliable sources?
- Tanner Hall (mpora ref) cut and moved to talk page, North Face (re Nikki Kimall) is a highly reputable outdoor equipment firm and if the North Face ref isn't enough there's this one, replace the IPP one with his baseball reference managerial one.
Note that I didn't check every single source, so it's possible that I didn't catch all of the issues. In fact, I likely didn't, which worries me. What else is uncited in the various columns?
- A retortical question with slightly dark undertones in its asking. I've updated everything you've found and will keep looking on my own in case you missed some. I'm still new at this. I'll fix everything everyone finds or remove it to the talk page for future research. PumpkinSky talk 00:56, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Giants2008 (27 and counting) 19:49, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- That was meant to catch the attention of the FLC community so that someone else will spot-check the list. We don't have nearly enough of that happening here, and I hope this effort is undertaken with this list. I'm sure you don't want any problems remaining in the list either. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 21:19, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- If that was the goal, no problem. I want the list to be as good as possible. PumpkinSky talk 21:46, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Two more comments upon checking the changes: in ref 101, the publisher shouldn't have a space between Pro and Rodeo (atypical, I know), and in ref 128, a publisher is needed. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 21:19, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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