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The list was promoted by Matthewedwards 07:12, 11 April 2009 [1].

Veronica Mars (season 2)[edit]

Nominator(s): Corn.u.co.pia • Disc.us.sion
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I am nominating this for featured list because I feel it meets the FL criteria. With the almost pass of the first season, and having formatted this list after that one, there should be few problems. Corn.u.co.pia • Disc.us.sion 11:06, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Quick comments

Other stuff I mentioned in the season 1 list: Ref dates, worldwide coverage, general ref, awards etc. Rambo's Revenge (How am I doing?) 14:46, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comments. Everything except for the ref dates has been fixed; I'll get on that later. Corn.u.co.pia • Disc.us.sion 06:47, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
All done. Corn.u.co.pia • Disc.us.sion 09:31, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for the support. The order of the episodes vs. prose is following the norm., although I can totally see where you're coming from. I guess this allows the prose to be more obvious/dominant, as the plot is kinda summed up in the lead. Corn.u.co.pia • Disc.us.sion 05:09, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Truco
Lead
  • Logan Echolls (Jason Dohring) is accused of killing a Pacific Coast Highway biker gang member after drunkenly picking a fight with Eli "Weevil" Navarro (Francis Capra) and the PCHers. -- The acronym should be formatted as Pacific Coast Highway (PCH), so its later use can make more sense.
  • "09ers" Dick Casablancas (Ryan Hansen) and Cassidy "Beaver" Casablancas (Kyle Gallner) deal with a gold-digging stepmother, Kendall Casablancas (Charisma Carpenter), with whom they are left when their father flees the country while under investigation for real estate fraud. -- (1)I would give a link to someplace that explains gold-digging (yes I know what it means, but others might not) (2)add with before when their father
  • Why isn't PCH linked here, but its linked in the Cast section?
Release
  • Eric Goldman of IGN wrote the season was "entertaining start to finish", with "great" returning characters and a "wonderful array of guest stars". -- Add that before the season was
  • Goldman was displeased with the lack of extras, and criticized the crew for the lack of commentaries. -- Since this is in a new section (distribution), you should make it aware that this is IGN's Goldman.
  • Network Ten broadcast the second season in Australia on Fridays at 10.35pm. -- Is it necessary to list the timeslot when the other mentions of broadcasting don't have that?
  • Awards: Kristen Bell won the Saturn Award for Best Television Actress,[30] and was nominated for the Satellite Award for Actress in a Series, Drama,[31] and the Teen Choice Award for Choice TV Actress: Drama/Action Adventure. -- Reword to Kristen Bell won the Saturn Award for Best Television Actress,[30] was nominated for the Satellite Award for Actress in a Series and Drama,[31] and the Teen Choice Award for Choice TV Actress: Drama/Action Adventure.
Episodes
  • I would seek a copyedit of these notes, as this is difficult to review for reviewers.
References
  • The General references are improperly formatted, they should be cited in a cite web template like they are in in this FL.
  • Some refs are linked more than once, others are not, like the ABC publisher. If you link others more than once, all need to be linked more than once.--Best, ₮RUCӨ 22:27, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks again for the comments. :) I have tweaked all issues, but I haven't inquired for a copyeditor because the summaries were all copied from the "List of episodes" page, which itself is a FL. Thanks again, Corn.u.co.pia • Disc.us.sion 06:51, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- Previous issues have been resolved; the article now meets WP:WIAFL.--Best, ₮RUCӨ 22:38, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:41, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)
Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)

Done

  • "while Jennifer Gwartz, Danielle Stokdyk "-->and Jennifer Gwartz, Danielle Stokdyk
  • "Dunn, who portrayed Duncan Kane, " Repetition of "portrayed".
  • "Logan-Veronica relationship" See WP:DASH, it should be "Logan–Veronica relationship".
  • "whom he though kept the season "humming along"" "whom"-->who, see Whom#Subject whom as my reasoning.
  • "performance Emmy-worthy" I'd appreciate a quote on this.
  • "numerous critics found issue with the complexity"-->numerous critics were frustrated by the complexity
  • "was displeased with the lack of extras, and criticized the crew for the lack of commentaries." Could you do away with the "lack ... lack" repetition?
  • "When a number of athletes including Wallace and Meg fail their drug tests"-->When several athletes—including Wallace and Meg—fail their drug tests
  • "the coach of the team"-->the team's coach
  • "finds out that"-->discovers that
  • "and does some investigating of his own to impress her" Very vague.
  • "She decides to go public with the information" Be a little more precise in the phrasing here. Does she post the information somewhere?
  • "after a witness comes forward" And... (what do they say)?
  • "Weevil tells Logan he no longer believes" Insert "that" after "Logan".
  • "of the bridge witness Dr. Griffith" What does "bridge witness" mean here? Be careful of vague back references.
  • "and reveals that he has a gambling problem. " Could this be simplified to "and reveals thatis a gambling addict."?
  • "Veronica is hired to discover who is mugging pizza boys and who is blackmailing gay students at Neptune High." Needs rephrasing to remove close repetition of "who is".
  • "Keith uses this information to force Sheriff Lamb" Could this be considered blackmailing?
  • "Hearst College" needs a section link, not just a redirect to the main locations article.
  • "It is Graduation Day for Veronica and her classmates, but Sheriff Lamb intends to make things difficult for Weevil." Not seeing the contradiction here, which is implied by "but". Dabomb87 (talk) 23:37, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "private-eye sideline job and tough persona" Is there something a little more formal and encyclopedic than this? I have no idea as to what a "sideline job" is.
  • "and is being blackmailed by Sheriff Lamb" For what?

Not done (yet)

  • "deal with a gold-digging stepmother" The Wiktionary link is appreciated, but this is still too colloquial.

Sources

Thank you so much for that in-depth review. I'll try to fix everything else ASAP. Corn.u.co.pia • Disc.us.sion 06:05, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:41, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from 97198
Some comments
  • Veronica Mars ranked #145 out of #156 - something can't rank out "number 156"; should probably be "145th out of 156"
  • If you could find it, an season average of viewers would work well in the lead
  • six of which were regulars in the first season - "six of whom"
  • "09ers" Dick Casablancas (Ryan Hansen)... - don't need quotation marks as term has been established above
  • Thomas, who said he - "said that he"
  • Brian Raftery of Entertainment Weekly praised the ingenious cast - this doesn't necessary imply that he believed the cast to be ingenious; it just says matter-of-factly that the cast is ingenious, so could do with a reword to clarify that this was the reviewer's opinion
  • maintaining Veronica's trademark wit and cleverness."[9] - full-stop/period should be outside quotation mark as it's not a full sentence
  • Could be useful to link "Wikipedic"
  • The second season was released in the USA - just "US"
  • In addition to all the aired episodes - "all of"
  • DVD extras included two featurettes: ... - the colon implies that the featurettes consist of everything onwards; could be reworded
  • Goldman was displeased with the scarce amount of extras - not sure "scarce" is the right word here
  • reviewers for UGO Networks wrote the DVD box set - "wrote that"
  • Can you find more specific (even a month?) details of when the season aired in Australia?
  • The man Alicia met in Chicago - "the man who"
  • a juror for a case between two "09er" boys - again, the "09er" term has been explained so we can drop the quotation marks
  • There seems to be some inconsistency between "Lilly" and "Lily"

Otherwise, looks good. Nice work :) —97198 (talk) 05:47, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I confirm my support after the criteria changes. Dabomb87 (talk) 12:20, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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