Tooth and Tail

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Original – A screenshot of the real-time strategy game Tooth and Tail, in which the player assumes the role of a commander of an army of animals.
Reason
Renomination of this. The criteria mentioned there still stand, and it only fell short by one vote. I was advised that renominating this was a good idea
Articles in which this image appears
Tooth and Tail
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Entertainment
Creator
Pocketwatch Games, the developers of the game. Uploaded to Commons by Anarchyte
According to Statista, less than a third (30.6 percent) of the 7.5+ billion population of the Earth plays video games. Sca (talk) 14:41, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
So? Not being intimately familiar with a subject does not imply not being interested in it. Wikipedia has tons of featured articles on people that no one alive has ever met, events that no one alive took part in, and beliefs that no one subscribes to.--Martin IIIa (talk) 15:42, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
To be fair, since only about (apparently) 55.1% of the world has access to the internet, and presumably there is near 100% overlap between those two figures, and 30.6% of the whole is 55.53% of 55.1%, it actually means that this has relevance to more than half of users who are liable to actually see it on the main page. GMGtalk 15:54, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
And also note that "60% Americans play video games daily", and "More than 150 million Americans play video games, and 64% of American households are home to at least one person who plays video games regularly, or at least three hours per week". Source. Anarchyte (talk | work) 03:43, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Even more to the other scale, 30% of people in the world play video games... But outside of that, how many of them know what a video game is, or even the particular consoles are, etc. My mother knows what video games are, and she doesn't play them. I'd suggest that 30% is far higher than pthe amount of people Chester A. Arthur is of interest to; who is todays featured picture. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:02, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Au contraire. To a non-video-gamer, the image is nonsensical. Sca (talk) 01:25, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Sca: The majority of the HUD is captioned. There's a map in the bottom left, objectives and rules in the top left, and characters scattered around the screen. I will admit that HUD at the center bottom may be a tad confusing to those unaware to how these games usually work, but it's a scroll-able inventory. It's a lot more intuitive than this. I could say the same about some non-video game files, too: File:Sorting quicksort anim.gif, File:Snells law wavefronts.gif, File:Conventional 18-wheeler truck diagram.svg (only numbered, no words), and File:Supercell.svg. There is no requirement for the image to make sense to everyone that sees it. The closest we've got is It illustrates the subject in a compelling way, making the viewer want to know more. And again, that is subjective. I didn't look at the supercell image and think "I'd like to learn more about that", but it's still a good image for those who do (and makes a bit more sense when you look at it in the article). Anarchyte (talk | work) 03:43, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Outside the context of the "Tooth and Tail" game it's still nonsensical, since the labels (e.g., "Protect the Meat Merchants") mean nothing to the uninitiated. Plus, the whole thing, a screenshot, is rather fuzzy. Not visually accessible to the general reader. Sca (talk) 14:01, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia images are meant to enhance understanding of an article's text, not to make reading the text unnecessary. We can assume the image's viewer has some knowledge of the image's context. Also, the image doesn't look fuzzy on either my desktop computer or my mobile phone; are you sure it's not just your monitor?--Martin IIIa (talk) 15:09, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It's OK for illustrating the Tooth and Tail article. It's meaningless out of that context, and would only puzzle most Main Page readers. The background of the image is done in an ethereal style that appears blotchy at full res. Not suitable for featuring on the Main Page. Sca (talk) 20:46, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Sca: As opposed to this stuttering mess, this diagram that has no information that makes sense to me, this yellow-green cell, and many of these (especially this, where you can see blurriness on the white lines)? Let's be consistent with what we think doesn't appeal to the general public, especially "when 60% Americans play video games daily". Anarchyte (talk | work) 06:33, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]


– Sca (talk) 14:22, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
How come you're not responding to points that clearly invalidate your argument? JOEBRO64 01:27, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Further the affiant sayeth naught. Sca (talk) 13:46, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Care to elaborate? Most of the people reading your comment won't understand what you're trying to say. 344917661X (talk) 14:22, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@344917661X: There's no point trying to continue the conversation. They're quite adamant on opposing (despite it being not at all related to the criteria). We've still got four days to see whether other people wish to add their supports/opposes (currently 4-2, and FP is entirely based on numbers, so one more support and no more opposition allows it to pass at ~71%). Anarchyte (talk | work) 10:20, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I guess you're right that there is no point in trying to continue the conversation. Sca has successfully derailed this discussion and the discussion over at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Nintendo Switch Portable as well. 344917661X (talk) 02:18, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Tooth and Tail - Desert screenshot.png --Armbrust The Homunculus 13:46, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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